New questions in Egypt worth noting.

[Lemon law]

As we can somewhat note, the events of the Arab spring toppled Mubarak, and ole Hosni became odd man out when his own military refused to support his plans of a brutal Syrian style crackdown of all his opposition.

And now Egypt stands at another crossroads in a planned replacement of a military caretaker government to fully Egyptian civilian control. As the final crossroads blueprint changes from first electing a legislature branch, to the last stage of electing a civilian President. As after the elections for the Egyptian Presidency, the Egyptian military is supposed to stand down and return Egyptian control to civilians.

But in a surprise move today, Mubarak's spychief/ ex-VP enters as a military backed candidate. At age 75 Sulieman can't last long, but he throws a monkey wrench into the future direction of Egypt.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/04/08/world/middleeast/ap-ml-egypt.html?_r=1&ref=global-hom


After that, anyone's guess is as good as mine.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Many Egyptians have since lost faith with the young revolutionaries who engineered Mubarak's stunning overthrow. The euphoria over his ouster soon gave way to frustration as Egyptians struggled to cope with a surge in violent crime, the fallout from a faltering economy and seemingly endless strikes, street protests and sit-ins that disrupted their daily life.

Is there any Arab nation that is actually embracing democracy?

When dreams meet up against reality; something gives.

 

[Lemon law]

Is there any Arab nation that is actually embracing democracy?

When dreams meet up against reality; something gives.

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I am confused about your message EK, are you saying democracy simply does not work for Arab's or what? But to answer your other question, Turkey now seems to doing a fine job of embracing democracy as autocrats like Mubarak will never come back.

As Arabs now increasing demand, that their own governments act in their own peoples interests.

As for Israel and its now dominant extremists, they are at war with their own courts who still demand a democratic rule of law.

But still, I try to confine this thread to Egypt, as the ideals that started the Egyptian changes will never be dead issues.

 

[CallMeJoe]

I am confused about your message EK, are you saying democracy simply does not work for Arab's or what? But to answer your other question, Turkey now seems to doing a fine job of embracing democracy as autocrats like Mubarak will never come back...

Turkey is not a majority Arab country.

 

[Lemon law]

Turkey is not a majority Arab country.

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Either is Iran as a they are Persian, but still both nations are overwhelming Muslim and still dynamic parts of the Mid-east.

Your point is?

 

[CallMeJoe]

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Either is Iran as a they are Persian, but still both nations are overwhelming Muslim and still dynamic parts of the Mid-east.

Your point is?

Merely that if one is discussing Arab democracy, Turkey is not a valid example. If one wishes to expand the discussion to Islamic democracy, that is a different matter.

 

[cave_dweller]

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Either is Iran as a they are Persian, but still both nations are overwhelming Muslim and still dynamic parts of the Mid-east.

Your point is?

Nope. Be careful when you use the word "Muslim".

In recent years, pressure on Sunni Muslims has increased throughout Iran. For instance, the authorities have removed a special annex for the Sunni Muslims from school textbooks taught in the Turkmen Sahra region. In the same region, the Sunni clerical teachers who teach religious subjects are forced to sign teaching contracts, that describe them as sport instructors. Furthermore, Sunni clerics are no longer allowed to take the entrance examination for the School of Theology of Tehran University that would enable them to seek employment after graduation. Sunni sources have reported that they are not given permission to publish their religious books.

The Sunni Muslims are not allowed to construct mosques in large cities such as Tehran, Mashhad, and Isfahan. In other cities, where such mosques exist, they face great difficulties when repairs are needed and they are not given permission to build new mosques. The only Sunni mosque in Mashhad, Feyz Mosque, was demolished in 1993, resulting in strong protests from Sunni citizens.

 

[Lemon law]

Cave Dweller, how many Shia Mosques are there in Saudi Arabia? And while we are at it, from 1953, to 1979, the US puppet in the Shah of Iran did exactly what to better Sunni rights in Iran?

 

[Genx87]

Cave Dweller, how many Shia Mosques are there in Saudi Arabia? And while we are at it, from 1953, to 1979, the US puppet in the Shah of Iran did exactly what to better Sunni rights in Iran?

Newsflash, it is 2012, not 1980.