New PSVita vs old PSVita

cmdrdredd

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Is it me or does the new LCD screen look terrible compared to the OLED. The new system seems larger though (more comfortable?). By the looks of the screen I'm glad I have the old one now. The colors look washed out and have no vibrancy if this is indicative of how it actually looks.

Old one on top, new one on bottom
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/old-vita-vs-new-vita-comparison-images-emerge
 

HeXen

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Top definitely looks better.

Offtopically, Is the Vita not selling very well? Just curious why it's the one device I never, ever hear about nor it's games.
 

cmdrdredd

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Top definitely looks better.

Offtopically, Is the Vita not selling very well? Just curious why it's the one device I never, ever hear about nor it's games.

Outside of Japan it isn't so hot. There's games coming out but it doesn't get that many exclusives. It's best games are either multiplatform or remakes of some kind.
 

mmntech

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Outside of Japan it isn't so hot. There's games coming out but it doesn't get that many exclusives. It's best games are either multiplatform or remakes of some kind.

Even in Japan sales have been lukewarm. There have been weeks when the PSP has outsold it.

I like the Vita but I think Sony made something that's a bit of a dinosaur, and they don't know how to market it to developers or gamers. The memory card prices and lack of internal storage (1GB now, but still WTF) are still a big part of the problem.

Hopefully things will change now that the Vita is heavily integrated with the PS4. It's a good system but nobody has really given it a chance.
 
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Yeah I was dubious about the switch to LCD, sounds like a strictly cost cutting measure. I thought I'd wait and see, in case maybe Sony was using the LCD tech in their newer phones, but that doesn't appear to be the case with that pic.

Yeah the Vita has been disappointing. Its why I'm hesitant to find out what Sony has planned to handicap the PS4. Seems like even when they do things well, they find some way to screw it up. With the Vita is the proprietary memory cards, price, and doing their own mobile OS instead of just leveraging Android.

I expect sales will pick up some now that its $200 (and the cheaper but still overpriced memory cards), but expect the earlier model (are they going to keep producing the OLED one?) to be coveted for the display. I saw something that indicated that it might be due to some defects in the OLED panels as it seems they exhibit some burn in problems.

In many ways its a shame Sony put in custom game focused components as it makes it harder for them to just put in a newer SoC and be able to offer backwards compatibility, while being able to offer a fresh game focused tablet every year or two to keep it fresh, while also reaping the benefits of being able to put Android on it.

Incidentally, its a bit of a shame that Google didn't use the huge bezel width on the new Nexus 7 to put some game controls. Even if it was just a special Play version or something and cost extra, it would have carved out a nice niche.
 

cmdrdredd

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To be honest, android is a mess of an os from a support standpoint. For a purely gaming machine it is far easier to have a custom os with custom development tools. That way it will work across every system equally. I know a couple people who have written small apps in android and trying to get it to function without knowing what software and hardware is being used is a nightmare.
 

gorcorps

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Even in Japan sales have been lukewarm. There have been weeks when the PSP has outsold it.

I like the Vita but I think Sony made something that's a bit of a dinosaur, and they don't know how to market it to developers or gamers. The memory card prices and lack of internal storage (1GB now, but still WTF) are still a big part of the problem.

Hopefully things will change now that the Vita is heavily integrated with the PS4. It's a good system but nobody has really given it a chance.

I like the vita too, but never see it advertised. I think they'll do a lot of joint ads with the ps4 that may help. I had a psp and hated it, but I think the vita is okay at current price levels. If they didn't give away games via ps+ though my tune may be different.
 

drbrock

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I was listening to podcast beyond this morning and they were saying the old vita will go the route of the original ps3 with backwards compatibility. Thinking about buying one for investment. The Vita just sucks soooo much right now. Don't know if there will ever be a demand for it.
 

bearxor

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I've been on the fence about a VIta for a while. Since I decided to switch to PS4 from a 360, it's been more and more something I've wanted.

The switch to an LCD screen is really going to move forward the time frame I want to get one in. I definitely want to get one with an OLED screen.
 

gothamhunter

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I know the Vita isn't as popular as, say, the 3DS, but all of you claiming it sucks right now must be living in the launch days. It has quite a few incredibly good quality titles now and I love playing mine.

With that said, they can take their LCD v2 and shove it; I love my OLED version.
 

drbrock

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I don't think the games are that great for it but that subjective. Many people don't think Wii U has good games but I actually prefer them.

I don't like the actual hardware. I have played with the Vita a few times at my local gamestop and I just don't like it. The OLED screen is really nice so for those on the fence def pick one up.
 

cmdrdredd

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I am with you Gothamhunter. I love my vita and have spent many hours playing it. Very high quality for a portable game device.
 

ikachu

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This is pure speculation but it may be possible that the screen isn't as bad as it looks in the comparison. It may be that the game needs to be 'optimized' for a particular display panel type (crank up brightness and saturation or something if running on LCD).

Not sure why Sony wouldn't demo a game that makes the screen look as good as possible though.
 

cmdrdredd

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This is pure speculation but it may be possible that the screen isn't as bad as it looks in the comparison. It may be that the game needs to be 'optimized' for a particular display panel type (crank up brightness and saturation or something if running on LCD).

Not sure why Sony wouldn't demo a game that makes the screen look as good as possible though.

Cause they shouldn't have to? Movies don't come out with specific settings for each TV.
 

cmdrdredd

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If there were only 2 different models of TVs in the world they might...

The point is...if you change a game's contrast etc for the new screen you ruin the superior oled screen's colors and contrast. They won't change anything. If anything it is poor viewing angles we are witnessing on the cheaper screen.
 

ikachu

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I guess what I'm trying to say is they could patch the game to have some code that checks the hw revision and then use different values based on that. But viewing angles is a perfectly good explanation for the difference.
 

cmdrdredd

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Looking at the uncharted picture in the article I see less difference. Perhaps some slight color temp differences like in the red barrel but nothing like the ragnarok Odyssey picture.
 

HeXen

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I hacked my PSP and love it due to all the emulators and games I can put on it and You can rip your PSX cd's and it'll play those games too which is really nice as the original PS had some great titles which I'm sure the Vita does that too. I actually don't play the PSP games much at all, some are just ok but the prices I think are way outrageous considering how old they are.

What they need to do is focus some exclusives, legit quality games like they would have done on the PS2 and advertise it. I think a focus on some fun simple platformers would do well too...some new Bandicoot games perhaps?
System has tons of potential, the GUI looks funky to me however, not into those large bubble icons. Gameboy's do well cause they are affordable and the games are generally fun and lots of oldschool style RPG's, simple yet effective.
 
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Mushkins

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This is the PSP 2000 vs the PSP 3000 all over again. The 2000 absolutely had a nicer screen.

I'm really hoping for some nice Vita holiday bundles, with the price cut, PS4 remote play, and some decent games i'm ready to pull the trigger, but looking at this announcement I definitely want the v1 before it goes the way of the buffalo.
 

purbeast0

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the psp's clearly aren't at the same angle. the top image is like an inch shorter than the one on the bottom. not really a fair comparison.
 

cmdrdredd

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the psp's clearly aren't at the same angle. the top image is like an inch shorter than the one on the bottom. not really a fair comparison.

Cause the screen on the new one is larger to begin with.

It is bigger, bigger screen, thinner, longer battery life, and has some internal memory.
 

purbeast0

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Cause the screen on the new one is larger to begin with.

It is bigger, bigger screen, thinner, longer battery life, and has some internal memory.

so the form factor on the screen changed? because it definitely isn't wider.

EDIT:

oh shit i'm blind, i just looked again and saw it IS wider haha. i couldn't tell from the quick glimpse as i could from the height.
 

cmdrdredd

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Yeah I have no idea why they altered that part of the system. I would think the resolution not changing would make a larger screen seem less sharp no?
 

Imported

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When does the LCD ones come out? Maybe I should pick up the OLED one while I still can..