New problem with Ubuntu

[TJones2]

First problem solved, please look down for new issue in my adventure installing Ubuntu.

I've downloaded Ubuntu 6.10 and Ubuntu Ultimate and when I try installing on boot it gives me the choice of how I want to boot, I choose install and it takes me to that page with the bouncy bar thingy, and doesn't go beyond that. Any ideas?

 

[Nothinman]

At the boot screen hit F6 and remove the words quiet and splash and see where it hangs.

 

[Fineghal]

Some of the newer hardware gives some problems because of sata drivers, however newer kernels usually fix this. Also try adding irqpoll at the end.

 

[TJones2]

I finally got it to load in, it was my bios settings (I had it for PATA + SATA and it wanted SATA). Anyway, I still have a problem. It doesn't appear to like my video card, a ATI x850xt. It won't give me a resolution better than 1600x1200 and I have a Dell 2405 monitor. Any suggestions for getting drivers for my video card installed and working?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Let's see the Xorg.conf.

What driver are you using for the ATI card?

What resolution do you expect?

 

[greylica]

You have to recompile ATI FGLRX drivers to properly work on your card as I Did. But by now I cannot remember where I found the instructions to do.
It functions Very well. Oh, do not forget to update all of your system before do it.

I've found it only in portuguese, then I tried to translate this friend's site post.

http://dfthiagodf.wordpress.com/2006/08...nstalando-driver-ati-no-ubuntu-dapper/

Thanks for Thiago Augusto for this tutorial ( AKA Luminance )


Do this ( Valid for AMD 64 )

1. Edit : linux-restricted-modules-common

$ sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common

Find the Line : DISABLED_MODULES=?"

And Leave : DISABLED_MODULES=?fglrx?

2. Installing the New driver

Download the driver from ATI

32bits -> ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run

64bits -> ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run

Enable the Universe and Multiverse on your repositories under your package manager.

$ sudo apt-get update

Installing necessary things to recompile:

$ sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential
$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)

3. Generating .deb packages

Go to the directory that you have downloaded the .run package

Execute the .run package :
sudo $ bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper

4. Installing the .deb generated

$ sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.29.6-1_i386.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.29.6-1_i386.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i fglrx-control_8.29.6-1_i386.deb

5. Removing the older packages .deb out of fglrx in /usr******/

$ sudo rm /usr******/fglrx-kernel*.deb

6. Compiling the new kernel module

$ sudo module-assistant prepare
$ sudo module-assistant update
$ sudo module-assistant build fglrx
$ sudo module-assistant install fglrx
$ sudo depmod -a

Note: If you did an update to your kernel, you have to redo the step 6

7. Updating xorg.conf

$ sudo aticonfig --initial
$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv

8. Reboot

$ sudo reboot -h now

9. Verifying if evrything is OK

type fglrxinfo on the command prompt

If this appear:

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)

Everything is OK !

Thanks for use Linux, our beloved O.S.

 

[TJones2]

thanks, but this is way out of my league. I'm simply trying to get it to run at 1920 x 1200. Guess Linux gets placed on the back burner again.

 

[greylica]

Post your Xorg.conf and I will help you. I will change your settings to what you need. Simply put xorg.conf in place again after I change it ...

 

[TJones2]

where do I find it?

 

[greylica]

Look in the folder:

/etc/X11/

 

[TJones2]

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X850 XT (R481)"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "DELL 2405FPW"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X850 XT (R481)"
Monitor "DELL 2405FPW"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1680x1680" "1600x1200" "1152x864" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

 

[TJones2]

so, I mucked and fiddled around with the config file, killed it twice. Linux is far from being ready for prime time, too bad too, this would have been a good time.

 

[Nothinman]

so, I mucked and fiddled around with the config file, killed it twice. Linux is far from being ready for prime time, too bad too, this would have been a good time.

It's really not that difficult if you take a little time to learn how the system works.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

so, I mucked and fiddled around with the config file, killed it twice. Linux is far from being ready for prime time, too bad too, this would have been a good time.

It's really not that difficult if you take a little time to learn how the system works.

^^^ That is very true. I switched my laptop to Ubuntu at the end of 2005 and the switch was not very smooth. Just remember the first steps are the most difficult and the more you learn the more it makes sense. Before long you know it you'll be able to do a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to fix a problem like this.

In the future, when you edit a file make sure you back it up first. Just do a 'cp filename filename.original' or 'cp filename filename.031207' (you may need to preface the 'cp' command with sudo if you don't have permissions in the directory). That way if you do totally bork your system you can undo your changes by copying the 'good' file over the one that borked your system.

 

[nweaver]

it's not that Linux doesn't like your ATI card, it's that ATI doesn't like Linux

although my laptop with an ATI card works just fine at normal widescreen res out of box (and has for ~3 releases now)

 

[TJones2]

Finally got the resolution right (trial and error with the config file). Now I try to install new programs with the updater, and more times than not it tells me I can't install it because it won't install on my type of computer (it says i386, but I assure you, I have a P4). Just lots of weirdness.

 

[SleepWalkerX]

It looks like you're running the default ati driver. Try the fglrx one. The easiest way in ubuntu is installing the fglrx package (it seems like its called xorg-fglrx-driver). So try sudo apt-get install xorg-fglrx-driver and then try to change the resolution.

 

[Nothinman]

Now I try to install new programs with the updater, and more times than not it tells me I can't install it because it won't install on my type of computer (it says i386, but I assure you, I have a P4). Just lots of weirdness.

The verbatim error message would be more helpful, but you also need to realize that a P4 is compatible with i386 so that's how most of the apps are bundled so i386 packages are correct for your P4.

 

[TJones2]

Don't want to be messing with that again. At some point, I'll want to get my dual monitors to work too, that's for later.

 

[TJones2]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Now I try to install new programs with the updater, and more times than not it tells me I can't install it because it won't install on my type of computer (it says i386, but I assure you, I have a P4). Just lots of weirdness.

The verbatim error message would be more helpful, but you also need to realize that a P4 is compatible with i386 so that's how most of the apps are bundled so i386 packages are correct for your P4.

"* cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type." More than half of what I got to install tells me that.

 

[greylica]

Originally posted by: nweaver
it's not that Linux doesn't like your ATI card, it's that ATI doesn't like Linux

although my laptop with an ATI card works just fine at normal widescreen res out of box (and has for ~3 releases now)

It is true.

The instructions I´ve posted explain how to install the driver correctly. Your Xorg.conf demosntrates that your ATI drivers are not properly configured in your system. The driver ATI specified in the section " Device ", is the open source driver without OPEN GL acceleration. I Sugest you to use the instructions I´ve posted first. After the proper install, we will simply add the metamode "1920X1200" to your screen sectin under modes.

I am Using an Apple cinema Display 30" with Blender without any jitter with my X1600XT.
ATI ever was a problem for Linux, because in some of their cards , they supressed OpenGL functions in the bios of the card itself to benefit DirectX over OpenGL with their proprietay drivers to gain some points in certain games. This caused a bunch of problems. Now they come back to listen the Open Source community, but their drivers need a lot of improvement to be easy to install.
They call their drivers " superior " to Nvidia. But in fact Nvidia is simple and easy to install on Linux systems and very, very stable.

The problems you are having with ATI card, I suffered the same in the past.

Linux is very easy to learn and we ( your trully friends ) ,will help you with all information that we can bring.

Try again.
Linux is our beloved Nirvana Fair Use O.S.

 

[greylica]

repeated post, I don´t know why, I erased..., the second too...

 

[greylica]

 

[TJones2]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
It looks like you're running the default ati driver. Try the fglrx one. The easiest way in ubuntu is installing the fglrx package (it seems like its called xorg-fglrx-driver). So try sudo apt-get install xorg-fglrx-driver and then try to change the resolution.

E: Couldn't find package xorg-fglrx-driver

 

[TJones2]

Originally posted by: greylica

Originally posted by: nweaver
it's not that Linux doesn't like your ATI card, it's that ATI doesn't like Linux

although my laptop with an ATI card works just fine at normal widescreen res out of box (and has for ~3 releases now)

It is true.

The instructions I´ve posted explain how to install the driver correctly. Your Xorg.conf demosntrates that your ATI drivers are not properly configured in your system. The driver ATI specified in the section " Device ", is the open source driver without OPEN GL acceleration. I Sugest you to use the instructions I´ve posted first. After the proper install, we will simply add the metamode "1920X1200" to your screen sectin under modes.

I am Using an Apple cinema Display 30" with Blender without any jitter with my X1600XT.
ATI ever was a problem for Linux, because in some of their cards , they supressed OpenGL functions in the bios of the card itself to benefit DirectX over OpenGL with their proprietay drivers to gain some points in certain games. This caused a bunch of problems. Now they come back to listen the Open Source community, but their drivers need a lot of improvement to be easy to install.
They call their drivers " superior " to Nvidia. But in fact Nvidia is simple and easy to install on Linux systems and very, very stable.

The problems you are having with ATI card, I suffered the same in the past.

Linux is very easy to learn and we ( your trully friends ) ,will help you with all information that we can bring.

Try again.
Linux is our beloved Nirvana Fair Use O.S.

I've read the instructions you provided, but I don't understand half of what you're saying, such as "Enable the Universe and Multiverse on your repositories under your package manager." ??