new power strip

[hardcore_gamer29]

hi i urgently need a power strip i run a heavy pc i5 2500k and gtx770 so need a good quality strip and what should be the power rating thanks

 

[Blain]

Do you need a power strip, surge protector or uninterrupted power supply?

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

surge protector brother many plugs in 1

 

[nsafreak]

Personally I tend to recommend UPSs instead of just surge protectors when it comes to plugging expensive electronics in to them. But if you just want a surge protector I would go with an APC SurgeArrest unit. If you have a large enough budget I would recommend a UPS instead though. How much do you have available to spend?

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

Personally I tend to recommend UPSs instead of just surge protectors when it comes to plugging expensive electronics in to them. But if you just want a surge protector I would go with an APC SurgeArrest unit. If you have a large enough budget I would recommend a UPS instead though. How much do you have available to spend?

hi thanks my main power plug is connected with inverter so i dont need a ups and this apc is not available in india here could you tell me what should be the power ratings on power strip for my pc seasonic x650 and asus gtx770

 

[nsafreak]

Simply going by the power ratings really isn't enough to find a good surge protector. There are many manufacturers that put out surge protectors with high ratings but crap hardware inside. What brands are available where you're at?

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

belkin havells phillips i am currently using phillips but its switch on/off button is gone lasted only for 5 months

 

[nsafreak]

Haven't heard of Havells so I'm not sure on the quality level on their units. I'd probably go with a Belkin similar to this one: http://www.flipkart.com/belkin-6-so...ctor&ref=06835151-d7c3-4916-9b95-7080774ec0c9 . Btw having an inverter does not mean that you don't need a UPS since all it's doing is converting DC to AC.

 

[Blain]

Manufacturers advise against connecting a surge suppressor or UPS downstream from another suppressor or UPS.
My guess is that would be the same advice when connecting downstream from an inverter.
Check with Belkin, Tripplite or APC about connecting their products to an inverter.

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

Haven't heard of Havells so I'm not sure on the quality level on their units. I'd probably go with a Belkin similar to this one: http://www.flipkart.com/belkin-6-so...ctor&ref=06835151-d7c3-4916-9b95-7080774ec0c9 . Btw having an inverter does not mean that you don't need a UPS since all it's doing is converting DC to AC.

hi what is this dc to ac and effects plz explain i am noob

 

[Paperdoc]

Your computer uses AC (Alternating Current) power. A UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) is a box that actually contains four components: a battery that only operates as a DC (Direct Current) unit, a charger that converts AC from the mains to DC to keep that battery charged, an inverter to convert the battery's output from DC back to AC for your computer, and an automatic sensing and control system to manage the whole thing. If you say you already have an inverter to power your computer, MAYBE what you have is an entire UPS with all those components in a box.

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

Your computer uses AC (Alternating Current) power. A UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) is a box that actually contains four components: a battery that only operates as a DC (Direct Current) unit, a charger that converts AC from the mains to DC to keep that battery charged, an inverter to convert the battery's output from DC back to AC for your computer, and an automatic sensing and control system to manage the whole thing. If you say you already have an inverter to power your computer, MAYBE what you have is an entire UPS with all those components in a box.

yep thanks i think i should go with belkin surge protector its rating is 490 joules enough?

 

[Blain]

yep thanks i think i should go with belkin surge protector its rating is 490 joules enough?

490 joules from a MOV protected surge suppressor is hardly anything.
It's barely better than a straight up power strip.

MOV (cheapie), surge suppressors will be degraded little by little with each surge. Eventually they simply become power strips.
If you're going to buy a MOV suppressor, buy one with as high a joule rating as you can afford. One with a metal housing is preferred to plastic.

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

thanks

 

[westom]

yep thanks i think i should go with belkin surge protector its rating is 490 joules enough?

Output from this 120 volt UPS in battery backup mode is 200 volt square waves with a spike of up to 270 volts. If the UPS output is that 'dirty', then it must destroy any attached electronics? Of course not. Because superior protection is already inside every appliance.

Did you know of that existing protection? If so, then why did you want protection?

Your concern is a transient that can overwhelm protection already inside appliances. If you need protection for anything, then you need protection for everything. Facilities that cannot have damage use something completely different, also called a surge protector, that is located so that a surge is nowhere inside the house, and costs about $1 per protected appliance. This 'whole house' solution comes from other companies with better reputations.

Effective protection is about where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. How many joules does that Belkin claim to absorb? 420? How many does that APC claim to absorb? A few thousand? Never ignore damning (near zero) numbers. Your concern is another and larger surge (as defined by numbers) that can overwhelm protection already inside appliances and easily blow through those APC and Belkin recommendations.

 

[hardcore_gamer29]

Output from this 120 volt UPS in battery backup mode is 200 volt square waves with a spike of up to 270 volts. If the UPS output is that 'dirty', then it must destroy any attached electronics? Of course not. Because superior protection is already inside every appliance.

Did you know of that existing protection? If so, then why did you want protection?

Your concern is a transient that can overwhelm protection already inside appliances. If you need protection for anything, then you need protection for everything. Facilities that cannot have damage use something completely different, also called a surge protector, that is located so that a surge is nowhere inside the house, and costs about $1 per protected appliance. This 'whole house' solution comes from other companies with better reputations.

Effective protection is about where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. How many joules does that Belkin claim to absorb? 420? How many does that APC claim to absorb? A few thousand? Never ignore damning (near zero) numbers. Your concern is another and larger surge (as defined by numbers) that can overwhelm protection already inside appliances and easily blow through those APC and Belkin recommendations.

hi thanks actually dont ned protection its just that i want more plugs in 1 e.g.,extension board

 

[Blain]

hi thanks actually dont ned protection its just that i want more plugs in 1 e.g.,extension board

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