New Pop-up Spam Mail Creeps onto Desktop

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I remember people complaining about this. Now we have someone to blame:

New pop-up spam mail creeps onto desktop

NEW YORK (AP) -- As if junk e-mail and pop-up ads weren't annoying enough on their own, now there's pop-up junk e-mail.

A developer of bulk-mail software has figured out how to blast computers with pop-up spam over the Internet through a messaging function on many Windows operating systems. The function was designed for use by computer network technicians to, for instance, warn people on their systems of a planned shutdown.

The pop-up messages appear on recipients' computers in separate windows, similar to pop-up ads that appear when a user goes to a Web site.

But there's a difference: Anyone can send the messages, and there's no need for the user to have an Internet browser open.

Gary Flynn, a security engineer at James Madison University, where several messages were received, calls the technique worse than e-mail spam.

"This pops up on the screen," he said. "It's almost like somebody barging in your office and interrupting you."

Site touts tool's marketing potential
Zoltan Kovacs, founder of the company that makes the new software, officially condemns spamming but acknowledges some customers buy it for that.

"If some people use it for bad things, they should take their own responsibility, but it's their own problem," Kovacs said.

He said his tool can help system administrators send alert notices to network users more efficiently.

However, his Web site touts the software's advertising and marketing potential. He said he has sold more than 200 copies since his $699.99 product was released two months ago.

The new spam technique represents the latest attempt to bypass the increasingly sophisticated e-mail spam filters employed by leading Internet service providers and individual users.

It also circumvents state and other laws designed to curb junk e-mail, Kovacs said.

Kovacs said his company is based in Romania. A demo copy of the software contains a Plantation, Florida address, but he said that was old. Kovacs refused to discuss his location, other than saying he is in the United States.

In recent weeks, Internet users have reported receiving pop-up messages such as one touting university degrees without classes or books.

Security firm myNetWatchman.com, which monitors some 1,400 computer networks worldwide, also detected unsolicited connection attempts of the pattern used by Kovacs' software, DirectAdvertiser.

Unlike e-mail, recipients can only receive messages if their computers are on while the messages are being sent. And the software can only send text -- not images or clickable links as are found in pop-up ads and e-mail.

The software itself does not hack into computers. Rather, it uses the Messenger service that comes turned on by default with many Windows systems, including 2000 and XP, said Philip Sloss, an independent security consultant in San Diego.

Users can disable function that allows messages to appear
Messenger, not to be confused with the MSN Messenger instant-messaging program, is meant for system administrators to broadcast service notices.

But if a system administrator can use Messenger, so can someone connecting through the Internet from the outside, said Lawrence Baldwin, president of myNetWatchman.com.

Flynn worries that hackers might one day use the technique to persuade users to change their passwords or otherwise compromise security.

Users can disable Messenger through their operating system's control panel, although doing so could interfere with some anti-virus and other applications that send such messages. Kovacs even provides instructions on his Web site.

 

n0cmonkey

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.
 

ElFenix

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yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.

i have a firewall. i was in the DMZ doing some file xfers on icq.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.

i have a firewall. i was in the DMZ doing some file xfers on icq.

2 easy solutions. 1. Setup you firewall correctly (although this sounds more like a soho NAT box than a firewall). 2. use a better file transfer method.
 

nord1899

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!

Wait, isn't it basically using Net Send?

Oh well, my machines are behind a nice firewall so they won't get me.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.
Or you just disable NetSend and it's taken care of. Or name your network something other than "workgroup". It's not that hard to change the name of your network to an uncommon name.

ZV
 

PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: nord1899
Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!

Wait, isn't it basically using Net Send?

Oh well, my machines are behind a nice firewall so they won't get me.

Net send and a batch file.

-PAB
 

sharkeeper

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We've been getting these for years. For administrative purposes of course. Printers, UPS', admins, etc. Now spammers are sending them to people with public ip's! Farggin' Tossers! Blech! :|

Cheers!
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy


Net send and a batch file.

-PAB
And he's charging $700 for that. There's probably a nice GUI, but still...how hard would that be to code up in VB or something similar?
 

hx009

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Or name your network something other than "workgroup". It's not that hard to change the name of your network to an uncommon name.

ZV


Brilliant. Too bad that has nothing to do with it.
 

pulse8

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I've never gotten one, although, I believe I currently have net send disabled in XP because I have absolutely no use for it. :)
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: ElFenix
yep, i got one of those once... annoying as fsck... it was like getting spam over net send!
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Firewalls are good. Microsoft networking is flimsy. These people getting hit by this stuff are either idiots, ignorant, or like getting this crap.

i have a firewall. i was in the DMZ doing some file xfers on icq.

2 easy solutions. 1. Setup you firewall correctly (although this sounds more like a soho NAT box than a firewall). 2. use a better file transfer method.

yeah, i could get a real firewall running on my ppro (since its just sitting in my living room off) but i'd still have to run the other thing (wireless). my room is hot enough already without another computer running.

its not me, i'm running an ftp server, its the other dumbarse :)