New poll shows that voters trust the GOP more than Democrats...

[dali71]

A Rasmussen poll from October 2008 found voters to trust Democrats more than Republicans on 10 of 10 key issues. A Rasmussen poll from May 2009 showed voters trusting Democrats more on 5 of 10 key issues, while being tied on abortion. I posted a link to an analysis of the upward trend in a Phokus thread on the demise of the Republican party, but no one cared to comment on it. Fast forward to the Rasmussen poll from 2 days ago, which shows voters trusting Republicans more than Democrats on 8 of the 10 key issues. Health Care and Education, the 2 issues Democrats are trusted more on, showed marked improvement by Republicans. I'm glad to see that buyer's remorse is finally kicking in among the people.

 

[theeedude]

Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

 

[MikeMike]

it's all Bush's fault that the democrats are being hated on now, the democrats couldn't keep their promises because of what Bush left behind.

Phokus.txt

 

[sandorski]

People have short memories, unfortunately.

 

[theeedude]

"Who do you trust to do a better job handling health care: President Obama or the Republicans in Congress?"


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President
Obama Republicans
in Congress Unsure
% % %


6/23-29/09
53 33 14

 

[her209]

I don't understand why the public would change their mind on Iraq or national security.

 

[theeedude]

Plus if Republicans really believe the public trusts them more on Social Security, why don't they go ahead and try repealing it?

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

Since the October poll, the Democrats lead on health care has dropped from 20 points to 4 points, and their lead on education has dropped from 19 points to 3 points. It appears that it is indeed being taken care of.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: senseamp
Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

Since the October poll, the Democrats lead on health care has dropped from 20 points to 4 points, and their lead on education has dropped from 19 points to 3 points. It appears that it is indeed being taken care of.

Poll Shmoll. Dems won the only poll that matters, Presidency, House, and Senate.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: senseamp
Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

Since the October poll, the Democrats lead on health care has dropped from 20 points to 4 points, and their lead on education has dropped from 19 points to 3 points. It appears that it is indeed being taken care of.

Poll Shmoll. Dems won the only poll that matters, Presidency, House, and Senate.

So now they are free to do whatever the hell they want without respecting the public's present wishes?

 

[Xellos2099]

Actually yeah.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: senseamp
Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

Since the October poll, the Democrats lead on health care has dropped from 20 points to 4 points, and their lead on education has dropped from 19 points to 3 points. It appears that it is indeed being taken care of.

Poll Shmoll. Dems won the only poll that matters, Presidency, House, and Senate.

Ah, but you see, when the 2010/12 elections roll around, we are to mysteriously and conveniently forget everything that happened during Bush's two terms in office along with the resultant disasterous long-lasting after-effects that those terms produced and only concentrate on what Pres. Obama is doing to undo in 2/4 years what took the repubs 7 1/2 years to start. And never mind what Pres. Obama could have accomplished had Bush & Co. left us with even half the damage they caused while they had unlimited access to our Nation's treasury, intelligence community and our military might.

 

[Moonbeam]

Apparently they don't trust them to run the country.

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Apparently they don't trust them to run the country.

In October, when the initial poll was done, Republicans weren't trusted. 9 months later, we see how much the public's trust in the Democrats has eroded. Let's wait and see what happens in the 2010 elections.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: senseamp
Time to take care of healthcare and education then.

Since the October poll, the Democrats lead on health care has dropped from 20 points to 4 points, and their lead on education has dropped from 19 points to 3 points. It appears that it is indeed being taken care of.

Poll Shmoll. Dems won the only poll that matters, Presidency, House, and Senate.

Good thing another one is right around the cornet.

 

[Phokus]

See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

For all of Bush's faults, it was good that he abandoned his SS privatization initiative. Imagine if he had succeeded, do you even understand how badly you would've lost in '08?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

For all of Bush's faults, it was good that he abandoned his SS privatization initiative. Imagine if he had succeeded, do you even understand how badly you would've lost in '08?

Do you understand that it would have affected virtually no one? No one would have been forced into and no one would have sustained any larger losses than what they did in their 401ks. SS + private account is still a good idea.

For young people SS still remains a big waste of their money.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

For all of Bush's faults, it was good that he abandoned his SS privatization initiative. Imagine if he had succeeded, do you even understand how badly you would've lost in '08?

Do you understand that it would have affected virtually no one? No one would have been forced into and no one would have sustained any larger losses than what they did in their 401ks. SS + private account is still a good idea.

For young people SS still remains a big waste of their money.

I and a lot of others sustained fairly big losses in my 401k and i was very well diversified in the funds i chose

Whether or not the social security privatization was forced or voluntary, the democrats would've hammered the hell out of the GOP if they got away with the plan, given the dive in the stock market.

 

[BarrySotero]

Poll after poll after poll shows Americans leaning center right - which is how Obama ran - then he flushed them down the potty - and they know it

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Poll after poll after poll shows Americans leaning center right - which is how Obama ran - then he flushed them down the potty - and they know it

Yet, when you look at issues like universal healthcare, americans seem to be fairly left, why is that?

You'd think the republicans could have gotten in a small government agenda in when they had power.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

For all of Bush's faults, it was good that he abandoned his SS privatization initiative. Imagine if he had succeeded, do you even understand how badly you would've lost in '08?

Do you understand that it would have affected virtually no one? No one would have been forced into and no one would have sustained any larger losses than what they did in their 401ks. SS + private account is still a good idea.

For young people SS still remains a big waste of their money.

I and a lot of others sustained fairly big losses in my 401k and i was very well diversified in the funds i chose

Everyone has taken large losses in the stock market, but those same type of funds if they were privated SS accounted would not have faired any worse. Actually I would still be better offer as I Would have more money going to buy cheap stocks right now. But that is a different story.

Whether or not the social security privatization was forced or voluntary, the democrats would've hammered the hell out of the GOP if they got away with the plan, given the dive in the stock market.

NO doubt they would have, but SS still remains a very bad deal for the young.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Poll after poll after poll shows Americans leaning center right - which is how Obama ran - then he flushed them down the potty - and they know it

Yet, when you look at issues like universal healthcare, americans seem to be fairly left, why is that?

They seem to want health care reform, they dont really care for govt healthcare. There is a large difference there.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Phokus
See who is more trusted if conservatives get around to eliminating social security and sticking with free market care. Even if you do gain power, you will never be able to govern as a Reaganesque conservative.

Yes lets not mod SS at all so it crashes later. Nor should we keep the things that work in our healthcare system and just rush to let the govt run everything.

For all of Bush's faults, it was good that he abandoned his SS privatization initiative. Imagine if he had succeeded, do you even understand how badly you would've lost in '08?

You do realize Bush's plan only affected people younger than 40 right? And only if people volunteered to have a % of their witholding put into a privatized account that required they give up future benefits.

The funny thing about Bush's proposal was it would have made SS more solvent due to only taking a % of ones witholding while putting the rest into SS and baring that person from collecting SS.