New PC-Salvage parts or sell current rig?

[z1ggy]

I'd like to build a new PC. I can't decide if I should reuse parts from my current set up, or sell it to help finance a new build.

1. Will be used for gaming and the usual web browser duties. Games are not super intense, but I could see myself picking up Crysis 3 in the future.

2. Let's keep it under $1000.

3. USA- Newegg/Amazon (if things are cheaper. I have a Prime account)

4. NA

5. Most benches show intel CPU's will be better for gaming. I'm open to a debate between NVidia and AMD though.

6. If I do recycle parts, I would reuse my case, HD, PSU, DVD, mouse, keyboard, monitor

7. I'm experienced in OCing. I'd probably do it again, tinkering can be fun.

8. 1920x1080

9. Soon...?

X. I'd reuse my Win7.

So, the current PC is in my sig. Some people have said they can't see my sig.. So if that's the case let me know and I'll post the details.

A totally new build would be the following:

CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W
Cool Master HAF912
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155
MSI GTX 760
i5-3570k
Crucial M500 240gb SSD
G.Skill Ripjaws 8gb (2x4gb)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM
Cool Master Hyper 212 EVO

Price AR = $1043
Total Adjusted Price = ~$700-800 (sell current PC for $200-300)

If I reuse the parts listed in the question section along with the needed parts above, price would be ~$838.44 AR. There's a slight chance I could save on the RAM if I reuse what I have, although I think it's currently faulty. I posted a thread in the memory section asking if G. Skill would replace it for free. If that's true, a semi-recycle build would cost me around $760.

Thank you for reading.

 

[Charlie98]

First things first... why are you replacing a Z68/1155 socket system with another obsolete Z77/1155 socket system? If you are going to stay with 1155, just drop that i5-3570 into the Z68 board, grab a new GPU and roll...

 

[z1ggy]

First things first... why are you replacing a Z68/1155 socket system with another obsolete Z77/1155 socket system? If you are going to stay with 1155, just drop that i5-3570 into the Z68 board, grab a new GPU and roll...

I wasn't aware 1155 was obsolete already. From what I read the Haswell's aren't really worth the increase in cost right now. I figured the Z77 board would OC better than the Z68, but if not, then yes I agree it's a waste to buy a new board.

Additionally, I wanted to grab a SSD, but maybe I don't need to right away if I'd like to save money. I can just toss in a new cpu, gpu and RAM and start right up again, no? No need to mess with Win7 or my HD?

Edit: I see my Z68 does not support PCI-E 3.0, while the Z77 does. Worth the upgrade?

 

[Hinda65]

I agree with Charlie....you could go i5/i7, 770/780 and be between $600 and $800.

Add a small 60gig ssd and enable the boards cache feature and maybe add a new psu while your at it and you'd have a better rig than you were planning for between $800 and $1000.

The last I had read, PCI-E 3.0 is very slightly faster than 2.0...like less than 1%...

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I wasn't aware 1155 was obsolete already. From what I read the Haswell's aren't really worth the increase in cost right now. I figured the Z77 board would OC better than the Z68, but if not, then yes I agree it's a waste to buy a new board.

Additionally, I wanted to grab a SSD, but maybe I don't need to right away if I'd like to save money. I can just toss in a new cpu, gpu and RAM and start right up again, no? No need to mess with Win7 or my HD?

You will need to reinstall windows if you add the SSD, otherwise there shouldn't be problems.

I'd say drop-in upgrade to 3570K, add an SSD and a GTX760 or GTX770 if you can afford it. I'm not sure adding memory will benefit anything since you already have 8GB. No reason to buy new higher speed DIMMs, the performance difference is minimal at best. That should set you up for the next 2-3 years, perhaps longer.

 

[z1ggy]

I agree with Charlie....you could go i5/i7, 770/780 and be between $600 and $800.

Add a small 60gig ssd and enable the boards cache feature and maybe add a new psu while your at it and you'd have a better rig than you were planning for between $800 and $1000.

The last I had read, PCI-E 3.0 is very slightly faster than 2.0...like less than 1%...

If I'm just powering a gtx760, I probably won't need a new PSU. MTBF is like 100k hours, and I've only had this PSU for 3 years.

You will need to reinstall windows if you add the SSD, otherwise there shouldn't be problems.

I'd say drop-in upgrade to 3570K, add an SSD and a GTX760 or GTX770 if you can afford it. I'm not sure adding memory will benefit anything since you already have 8GB. No reason to buy new higher speed DIMMs, the performance difference is minimal at best. That should set you up for the next 2-3 years, perhaps longer.

So a question I have now is, which would perform better for gaming, given all things equal like GPU, RAM etc etc:

i5-4430 @3.0GHz on an H87 board or
i5-3570k @3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) on Z68 board

Dropping in a 3570k and gtx70 would cost about ~$500 including shipping. Reusing the stuff I mentioned above and buying a new 1150 system using the 4430 and H87 board would cost like ~$650 assuming I grabbed a SSD. If I sold my current rig for $200-300 and built a new Haswell system, total price would be around ~$630-730.

 

[Charlie98]

I wasn't aware 1155 was obsolete already. From what I read the Haswell's aren't really worth the increase in cost right now. I figured the Z77 board would OC better than the Z68, but if not, then yes I agree it's a waste to buy a new board.

Additionally, I wanted to grab a SSD, but maybe I don't need to right away if I'd like to save money. I can just toss in a new cpu, gpu and RAM and start right up again, no? No need to mess with Win7 or my HD?

Edit: I see my Z68 does not support PCI-E 3.0, while the Z77 does. Worth the upgrade?

I'm still on Z68/i5 and I don't see any real reason to upgrade. Yes, I'm probably missing that top 5% of performance the Z77/87 might provide, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

I would upgrade the processor and drop in a SSD. Get at least a 120GB SSD, preferably a 240GB; 60GB SSDs are a poor value and there are performance advantages to the bigger SSDs.

You'll need to sort out your RAM... 1333MHz is OK, I wouldn't spend the money to upgrade to 1600 or 1866 unless you really find your current RAM is bad.

Depending on the model, your PSU should suffice; your case is solid unless you are looking for a reason to replace.

So a question I have now is, which would perform better for gaming, given all things equal like GPU, RAM etc etc:

i5-4430 @3.0GHz on an H87 board or
i5-3570k @3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) on Z68 board

3570 on Z68.

Question: Are you near a MicroCenter? That may change things...

 

[Insert_Nickname]

So a question I have now is, which would perform better for gaming, given all things equal like GPU, RAM etc etc:

i5-4430 @3.0GHz on an H87 board or
i5-3570k @3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) on Z68 board

The 3570K is going to be faster, Haswell is "only" good for 10% extra IPC. And that's before you get in to overclocking. The 3570K should be good for 4.2-4.3GHz at stock voltage. The i5 can't be overclocked at all.

Since you already have the mainboard, I don't see any compelling reason to move to Haswell. Haswell is pretty pedestrian if you already have a Sandy/Ivy Bridge system. Unless you need extra SATA3 ports. The new instruction set needs a few (or 5) years to become widely supported, if at all. At which point you've likely upgraded again.

Personally I'm waiting to upgrade my 3770non-K until Skylake. Unless the X99 platform is really good.

 

[z1ggy]

^^ Not near a MicroCenter.

Thank you for the advice, I will consider everything you've said.

 

[DSF]

If you're really feeling the upgrade itch I would get an i5. Make sure you check that your board can support a 3570K if you go that direction. It would most likely require a BIOS update. Another thought would be to buy a 2500K or 2600K used. That wouldn't need a BIOS update and would be fairly close to the performance of a 3570K and possibly have more overclocking potential. I would also get an SSD large enough to hold OS, productivity apps and any games where you feel loading times are an important issue for you. 180-240GB is a good range.

If you're not happy with your gaming performance at that point then I would upgrade the video card as well. If games are not super intense (which is a vague description, can you clarify that? Are there any games that run too slowly for your taste?) then you may not need a video card upgrade. Pop a new one in if and when you move to the more demanding titles.

Of course there's an argument for upgrading lots of parts right now, but it doesn't seem necessary to me. The approach I outlined above would avoid spending money unless it's actually going to translate directly to performance.

 

[z1ggy]

If you're really feeling the upgrade itch I would get an i5. Make sure you check that your board can support a 3570K if you go that direction. It would most likely require a BIOS update. Another thought would be to buy a 2500K or 2600K used. That wouldn't need a BIOS update and would be fairly close to the performance of a 3570K and possibly have more overclocking potential. I would also get an SSD large enough to hold OS, productivity apps and any games where you feel loading times are an important issue for you. 180-240GB is a good range.

If you're not happy with your gaming performance at that point then I would upgrade the video card as well. If games are not super intense (which is a vague description, can you clarify that? Are there any games that run too slowly for your taste?) then you may not need a video card upgrade. Pop a new one in if and when you move to the more demanding titles.

Of course there's an argument for upgrading lots of parts right now, but it doesn't seem necessary to me. The approach I outlined above would avoid spending money unless it's actually going to translate directly to performance.

Not sure where I could find a used 2500k. I don't really even like buying used electronics since I can't see the "mechanics" of it, like a used car, etc.

I play games like Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike GO, Star Craft 2, DOTA 2, Borderlands 2 & Skyrim. I'm looking to try out games like Theif, etc, but generally I only play FPS and MMO/RPG games on PC. I'm also looking to try Dark Soul II, as well.

Also, in general would this XFX R9 270X for $179.99 AR be a decent alternative to the GTX 760 to save some cash? The GTX 760 looks to be around $230-250 right now but according to the AT benches, isn't performing more than the % of price increase in most cases. At that price, the R9 270X seems to be the better card.

 

[mfenn]

I agree with the other posters. Pick up an i5 3570K and drop it into your existing Z68 board after a BIOS update (min BIOS version P2.10). An R9 270X at $180 AR is a good deal and will be a nice upgrade from your GTX 460. Your RAM size should be OK unless you're actively running out with your current workload.

 

[z1ggy]

I agree with the other posters. Pick up an i5 3570K and drop it into your existing Z68 board after a BIOS update (min BIOS version P2.10). An R9 270X at $180 AR is a good deal and will be a nice upgrade from your GTX 460. Your RAM size should be OK unless you're actively running out with your current workload.

Thanks mfenn, I plan on doing this.

The deal on that r9 270x just went away I'll keep my eye open though for any price changes and let people know!

 

[monkeydelmagico]

I agree with the other posters. Pick up an i5 3570K and drop it into your existing Z68 board after a BIOS update (min BIOS version P2.10). An R9 270X at $180 AR is a good deal and will be a nice upgrade from your GTX 460. Your RAM size should be OK unless you're actively running out with your current workload.

+1

R9 280 for $233 free ship after coupon code UPGRADEMYVGA and rebate. Comes with some games too, nice.

 

[z1ggy]

+1

R9 280 for $233 free ship after coupon code UPGRADEMYVGA and rebate. Comes with some games too, nice.

So the coupon code gets it down to $233?? Because right now it says it's $270 AR. I missed my chance at the 270x for $180 AR yesterday or the day before

But thank you none the less for the heads up!!! Is there anyway I can set alerts for newegg to email me when there are deals on certain items? I don't want to have to troll newegg every day non-stop...

 

[monkeydelmagico]

So the coupon code gets it down to $233?? Because right now it says it's $270 AR. I missed my chance at the 270x for $180 AR yesterday or the day before

But thank you none the less for the heads up!!! Is there anyway I can set alerts for newegg to email me when there are deals on certain items? I don't want to have to troll newegg every day non-stop...

yep. $233.- if you follow the directions on dealnews.

Slickdeals is another place to find bargains.

Also can look in the hot deals section here on ATF.

Unfortunately, yes you have to troll the sites frequently to be able to take advantage of some sales.

 

[mfenn]

yep. $233.- if you follow the directions on dealnews.

Slickdeals is another place to find bargains.

Also can look in the hot deals section here on ATF.

Unfortunately, yes you have to troll the sites frequently to be able to take advantage of some sales.

:thumbsup: As in all things, time is money, so spending extra time hunting for deals will save you money, and grabbing the price as is will save you time. The correct answer depends on which is in shorter supply right now!

 

[biostud]

Another vote for ~240Gb SSD + 3570K/Z68 + R9 280X or GTX770.