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Originally posted by: Klixxer
<snipped for brevity the legal and rape points - they're above>

Other than that, how other men treat women, well tell them off them, i do if i see it, what are you, a man or a mouse? Some men are just stupid in the head and try to "own" women, some men think of them as lesser beings, some men think of women who are attractive but not attracted to them as "bad women" those men are called losers, like our friend VIAN, he should be presented at schools as the typical example of a loser.

Now, society is everchanging, so is the dress code, if it is ok by the law, all you can do is stare and that is it, so go ahead and stare, whisper "disgraceful" and then stare some more, that is all you can do.

Yes, society is everchanging. It's becoming more fair legally and more crude by the moment. Take the "own" women statement for example. In the past women were seen as property for all practical purposes. One result of this progress is hotties shaking their butts on "Pimp My Ride" and other such shows. Wow, went from being viewed as property to a car accessory. Am I being sarcastic? Yes. Sorta.

Today women are seen as....you tell me. No, really, how does the typical 18 year old male think of a woman today? Because what that perception is plays a big part of what it means to be a man. Roles are everchanging as well. I'm not talking about rape, never was. I'm talking about respect. How you present yourself to strangers tells them what you think about them and how you want them to think about you. We sure don't have a shortage of unwed mothers and "I'd hit it" shout outs, respect on the other hand...
 
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: tec699
Don't advertise something you don't want advertised. Women who do that are such like retail-chains. They offer the sale, but they hate people that go for it.

I have to agree. Women will wear revealing clothing and then they get pissed when we go up to them and ask them out or if we look at them for any amount of time. Well ladies were very visual beings and your asking for trouble if you wear items that reveal a bit too much.

Women don't deserve to be raped though.

You're missing it.

Women know exactly what they are doing when they wear revealing clothing. They get pissed because you aren't the guy they WANT to stare. If you are that guy, they're happy when you look. If they still pretend to be pissed, then they're just playing games.

NO, staring is ok, if she's pissed about that, tell her about it, there is a differance between asking for "trouble" and asking for looks, us men do it to, at least i know i do, i am an XL but i sometimes in the summer wear medium to show off.

You look good you want to show it, same reason why you wear nikes latest sport shoes but only walk to mcdonlds with them, same reason you wear expensive sunglasses or a brand t-shirt. the difference is they are not proud of others accomplishments but of their OWN accomplishments, they struggled hard to get the body they got, let them show it.

Where in post did I say anything about asking for trouble? I talked about looking. Don't group me into the 'rape is ok' guys you seem to think you are seeing in this thread. Direct your venom elsewhere.

Crap i mixed up two different posts, i was replying to yours while reading another.

I sincerely aplogize. I am truly sorry that i tried to imply this and i know how offended i would be myself.
 
Originally posted by: McCarthy
Originally posted by: Klixxer
<snipped for brevity the legal and rape points - they're above>

Other than that, how other men treat women, well tell them off them, i do if i see it, what are you, a man or a mouse? Some men are just stupid in the head and try to "own" women, some men think of them as lesser beings, some men think of women who are attractive but not attracted to them as "bad women" those men are called losers, like our friend VIAN, he should be presented at schools as the typical example of a loser.

Now, society is everchanging, so is the dress code, if it is ok by the law, all you can do is stare and that is it, so go ahead and stare, whisper "disgraceful" and then stare some more, that is all you can do.

Yes, society is everchanging. It's becoming more fair legally and more crude by the moment. Take the "own" women statement for example. In the past women were seen as property for all practical purposes. One result of this progress is hotties shaking their butts on "Pimp My Ride" and other such shows. Wow, went from being viewed as property to a car accessory. Am I being sarcastic? Yes. Sorta.

Today women are seen as....you tell me. No, really, how does the typical 18 year old male think of a woman today? Because what that perception is plays a big part of what it means to be a man. Roles are everchanging as well. I'm not talking about rape, never was. I'm talking about respect. How you present yourself to strangers tells them what you think about them and how you want them to think about you. We sure don't have a shortage of unwed mothers and "I'd hit it" shout outs, respect on the other hand...

Well, i am not that young myself, i am a father of three and i have a teenage daugher.

I think you are looking at it the wrong way, the problem is not how women act, the problem is how men act as a response. Respect IS in the eye of the beholder, it is YOU who should respect women.

Or at least that is how i was raised, and that is how i will raise my children.

I am going to do this, just this one time.

Tell me, how did these unwed mothers become unwed mothers? Because men "respected" them too damn much? you are trying to blame women for out of marriage children, well i dunno if you know it but it takes TWO, or didn't they teach you that in "your days" and who are the punks who shout "i'd hit it" are those those women you are talking about or is it just teenage disrespectful MALE punks?

And you blame all of this on WHO?

Let me then tell you this, you are a disgrace, a complete utter disgrace, you are telling women that if they become single mothers they are disgaceful, well there are single mothers out there who actually had a husband, then he met someone else and ran of, oh how disgraceful those single mothers ARE, and then we have other single mothers who were so badly beaten that they had a choice, stay and die or become a single mom, oh how disgraceful the ARE, or the women who have lost their husbands in war, oh how disgracefule they ARE.

This rant is intended to show you only one thing, you do not THINK before you TYPE, and even when a woman is having casual sex and gets pregnant, well guess WHAT, the guy is JUST AS much responsible.

Now tell me again, how are woman to blame for anything you accused them of?
 
The problem is with how men act as a response. Yes, you have it. Where do they learn how to act? From those around them, very good.

How do women become unwed mothers? Because of a lack of respect on the part of both genders - to each other and especially to children. "I'd hit it" refers to disrespectful male punks, yes, you got that too.

I said unwed, didn't say divorced/widowed. If I may make an observation, you have a very bad habit of assuming. You gave an example of a man running off to chase some new woman (in tight red pants probably). That's not showing much respect for women, but fits the mentality that women are only good as long as they are pleasing. Women who subjugate themselves into the role of sex objects only support that mentality and make it harder for other men and women.

Biology we agree, takes two. Psychology we disagree and don't seem to be making much progress.
 
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