New Orleans City Hall dysfunction leaves specialist 'shocked'

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Darwin333

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I'll never go during the Mardis Gras season again. I went last labor day and it was awesome. I was really annoyed by the closure of all the roads surrounding the FQ\Canal street area due to parade routes. It took me 2 hours after exiting off i10 to make it to my hotel (Royal Sonesta.) I had to park 7 blocks away, ride on a golf cart and then walk several blocks. I don't find parades entertaining. They were just annoying.

The Royal Sonesta is a great place to stay and yes, getting your car in or out of the FQ during mardi gras weekend is damn near impossible. The trick is to get in on a weekday and get your car parked in the garage early in the morning. Then just cab it everywhere.

Also the crowds during Mardis Gras were noticeably more violent after midnight on Bourbon St. Glass bottles were being hurled, buckets of beer thrown into the air, fights breaking out, etc.

Yeah, that sort of stuff tends to happen when you have a sea of drunk young people in very tight quarters. I stay the hell off of bourbon during Mardi Gras too unless I have friends in town that just have to go see it. If you ever do decide to come back for Mardi Gras I would suggest buying tickets for one of the balconies. You are out of the crowd, food and usually an open bar, bathrooms with little or no wait, etc.. while you watch the crazy drunks below and women beg you for .10 plastic beads (don't buy beads downtown either).

So I'll go back, because I love the atmosphere on Bourbon St, but I won't go back during Mardis Gras season. For what it's worth, I've spent 8 days in NOLA between the two trips, and the only time I left Bourbon St was to go for morning runs along the river.

Cool, if you ever need a tour guide or some tips on other places to hang out shoot me a PM.
I found that randomly running for an hour and a half often times lead me into areas where people are hanging out on their front porches, glaring and shouting things at me, and every footstep falls on broken glass.

Running for miles in random directions in NOLA isn't the best idea in the world. I do hope that you at least conceal carry. One thing that I have found rather unique about NOLA (at least in my travels) is you can go from very rich areas to very poor in just a block or two. You accidentally run into one of the worse housing projects and you better have a long gun.
 

Darwin333

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Meh, the Chicago PD hasn't tortured people (that we know of) since the 1980s. The New Orleans PD was still murdering people during Katrina. NOLA remains worse IMO.

Except for throwing stun grenades at little girls sleeping and then shooting her when there was no threat inside the residence at all.
 

werepossum

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That is exactly how I feel about him. I'm not sure if most of his family have ever held real jobs for very long in their lives if at all. I didn't trust him when he was running and he still has a ways to go to earn my trust.

With that said, it sure looks like he is on the right track and I would love nothing more than to eventually apologize for the above. Hell, it looks like the council is even starting to move in the right direction which I would have never thought possible. The new police chief seems to be a standup non-corrupted guy so far who actually makes sense when he speaks and institutes policies (huge OMFG on that one). To top it off, NO just might have an AG that is starting to actually prosecute criminals!
Here's hoping. NO could sure use a break, especially from the criminals and the grifters. Last time we were there we went to one of the above-ground grave yards, pretty cool place we just happened to notice, and this guy came over to tell us we had to stay with the tour. When we told him we were by ourselves (the wife and I) he told us we needed to get out, said it wasn't safe even in daylight except in large groups because black guys (not the word he used) from the projects scaled the wall, robbed tourists, then scaled the wall back into the projects. There were a couple black guys not with a tour, but as far as I could tell they were doing the same thing as us, just walking around looking at the graves. We talked with a couple of them and they didn't seem like criminals anyway, and nobody bothered us. As we were leaving a cop stopped us and told us the same thing, that it wasn't safe to travel New Orleans except with a tour group because of these "black guys". (He used the same word - and he was black!)

Anyway, I've been there twice and never had any trouble, so I never had a good sense if it's really that dangerous or if they're just drumming up business for tours. But all the drunks, hippies, panhandlers and trannies kinda ruined it for me anyway.
 

Darwin333

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Here's hoping. NO could sure use a break, especially from the criminals and the grifters.

I'll drink to that.

Last time we were there we went to one of the above-ground grave yards, pretty cool place we just happened to notice, and this guy came over to tell us we had to stay with the tour. When we told him we were by ourselves (the wife and I) he told us we needed to get out, said it wasn't safe even in daylight except in large groups because black guys (not the word he used) from the projects scaled the wall, robbed tourists, then scaled the wall back into the projects. There were a couple black guys not with a tour, but as far as I could tell they were doing the same thing as us, just walking around looking at the graves. We talked with a couple of them and they didn't seem like criminals anyway, and nobody bothered us. As we were leaving a cop stopped us and told us the same thing, that it wasn't safe to travel New Orleans except with a tour group because of these "black guys". (He used the same word - and he was black!)

LOL. Welcome to N'awlins. I'll let someone much better than I explain the black vrs ****** (with an ER at the end, awesome dude with just an a on the end means friend, don't use either unless you feel like rolling the dice on catching an asswhoopin) thing click for explanation.

Since the so called "white flight", which was really middle/lower upper class flight, black folk have made been well over half of the population in N'awlins. The vast majority of politicians from NOLA have been black including US Congress (sun moon and stars aligned for Cao to get elected and as I said the day he got elected he had no chance of winning a 2nd term). Bottom line is, at least locally, the race card doesn't get played very often unless it is something really big or the pastors get involved. That is a big reason why you hear stuff like that, not to say that there isn't racism in the city but often it is people genuinely differentiating between black folk and assholes. That would be why you heard the black cop say it.

As far as the criminals, yes a majority of the criminals in NOLA are black. That is a huge shock when you consider that the majority of the population is black AND a very large percentage of the population is poor. Poor people, regardless of race, have a much higher tendency to be criminals and we seem to like cramming a fuckload of poor black folk in small areas (the projects) which makes matters even worse. Just like any other race it is not hard at all to tell the difference between the assholes and the normal folk.

Onto the "dangerous" part. Again this is something that is just "naturally N'awlins", remember when I said that for some reason we seem to like taking a fuckload of poor black folk and putting them in rather small areas better known as the projects? Well the city planners decided where to put these projects by throwing darts at a map and you can be driving (or walking) along and literally go from million dollar homes to a place that you gotta wait on the swat team if you call 911 in just a few blocks. There are now 3-4 housing projects that you might encounter (the rest you would have to try really hard to get too) and if you are within a 5 block radius or so, even though you are in a "good" area, it is smart to travel with a few people. Thugs look for targets of opportunity, don't give them one. I am pretty sure I know what graveyard you were at and the cop was right, a guy and his wife in a big, rather empty and dark, lots of hiding places, etc. place are targets of opportunity.

Basically it is just like any other city, if you wander into or near the poor areas and you are a target of opportunity you have drastically increased your likelihood of encountering trouble. If you don't wander into those areas the chances of trouble finding you are pretty damn slim. N'awlins is very dangerous if you are a young black male involved in the drug trade but otherwise it isn't nearly as bad as you think.

Anyway, I've been there twice and never had any trouble, so I never had a good sense if it's really that dangerous or if they're just drumming up business for tours. But all the drunks, hippies, panhandlers and trannies kinda ruined it for me anyway.

I think you just wandered a bit to close to the Magnolia housing projects which is why they played up the dangerous thing. Considering how close it is to the FQ they should give tourists maps with a big ass red circle around it but that isn't very PC. If you are on Bourbon St. at night the drunks kinda come with package, panhandlers are becoming less of an issue since we got the new Chief, can't do anything about the hippies, and as far as the trannies do NOT go farther than the 700 block of Bourbon. From canal to Bourbon (100 block - 700 block) you are on the "straight" side of Bourbon, from the 700 block on you are in the "gay" section.

If you ever decide to come back I would highly suggest coming during the French Quarter festival. It isn't nearly as crazy as Mardi Gras and tons of free live music, the best food you have ever had, good looking women and good times. Shoot me an email if you are considering it and I would be happy to give you a tour and give you some suggestions on what to do/where to go.

Happy Mardi Gras (yes, it is Mardi Gras day) so if anything I posted doesn't make sense, that is why.
 

Nebor

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It just occured to me that I did leave Bourbon St once during the Southern Decadence\Labor day weekend. I went out to dinner with a bartender chick I met on Bourbon St and she recommended a restaurant called The Grand Isle, just south of Poydras. That place is excellent. They have a BACON brownie. A chocolatey, fudge filled brownie with little bits of bacon in it.
 

Atreus21

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I sure hope you are wrong about your fathers position unless he recently obtained it. A large portion of the cities contracts are corrupt backroom deals that even if he is not responsible for the contracts themselves he should have a moral objection to being involved at all. We don't even bid on City of New Orleans work anymore. Either the specs are written to give a specific contractor the job, the DBA requirements are absurd (and meant to ensure a select few contractors get the work regardless of who wins the bid), it could take you a year or more to get paid after the work is completed, or a combination of the above. The only way we would do work for the City of New Orleans is if they paid in full upfront.

I don't think he has anything to do with the bidding process. I think he simply writes the contracts so that they stand up to legal muster.