New Newsweek cover: Why Are Obama's Critics so Dumb?

[MotF Bane]

I haven't read Newsweek in years, I was never much impressed by it.

 

[jackstar7]

You can't start off a serious discussion by calling any disagreement dumb, it's like slapping someone in the face then complaining they're not being reasonable.

Pretty sure Editorial still decides what goes on the cover, not the author of an article.

 

[Bowfinger]

Poseur alert award winner.

Nothing personal sweetheart. I can see why you feel threatened by someone who can read and think for himself. I understand your need to launch one emotional attack after another to compensate for your inability to actually offer anything on topic and substantive. I'm sure it makes P&N especially frustrating for you. It does seem you're unusually shrill today, however. Have you considered Midol?

 

[Blackjack200]

Nothing personal sweetheart. I can see why you feel threatened by someone who can read and think for himself. I understand your need to launch one emotional attack after another to compensate for your inability to actually offer anything on topic and substantive. I'm sure it makes P&N especially frustrating for you. It does seem you're unusually shrill today, however. Have you considered Midol?

The right really has their panties in a bunch right now and it's not hard to see why. Between universal health care, the end of DADT, putting fantastic new justices into the SCOTUS, and pulling out all the stops to increase spending and reverse the economic slide, Obama could end up being the best president in the last 50 years.

His approval numbers might still be in the dumps, but if the unemployment rate keeps moving in the right direction, that can turn around very quickly. Partisan hacks like monovilliage are hoping for maximum unemployment and maybe a terrorist attack or two to vindicate their constant bitching.

 

[nageov3t]

The right really has their panties in a bunch right now and it's not hard to see why. Between universal health care, the end of DADT...

when did Obama enact universal health care?

also, you can thank Joe Leiberman for ending Don't Ask/Don't Tell... he was pretty much the only one in Washington who seemed willing to go to the mat for that.

 

[Blackjack200]

when did Obama enact universal health care?

March 23, 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

also, you can thank Joe Leiberman for ending Don't Ask/Don't Tell... he was pretty much the only one in Washington who seemed willing to go to the mat for that.

Yeah, or you can thank the guy that signed the bill. Pretty hard to imagine Dubya or Mitt signing that.

 

[nageov3t]

March 23, 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

forcing everyone to buy into our broken health care system isn't exactly universal health care.

 

[senseamp]

Must be slow Newsweek news week. Andrew Sullivan is an opinion journalist, not a reporter.

 

[Jhhnn]

25 posts, many derogatory of Obama, none with any substance.

Our resident Righties prove Sullivan's point in ways he can't...

"Hate 'um Obama!"

Why?

"Hate 'um, Hate 'um, hate 'um Obama- hate 'um!"

Just close your eyes & cover your ears, chant USA!USA!USA!USA!

It'll fix everything. Really.

 

[zanejohnson]

the gop HAS became the official "hater" party...its irrational hate too...I'd imagine its related to racist upbringing/thinking fox news ISN'T a propaganda network...

 

[HomerJS]

Obama is leading this country like Schettino captained his ship.

The corract analogy would be Bush is Schettino.

Obama is the guy coming on board to organize a rescue of the people.

Meanwhile the GOP would be bitching that Obama is inept because some people died on the sinkling ship.

 

[xBiffx]

25 posts, many derogatory of Obama, none with any substance.

Our resident Righties prove Sullivan's point in ways he can't...

"Hate 'um Obama!"

Why?

"Hate 'um, Hate 'um, hate 'um Obama- hate 'um!"

Just close your eyes & cover your ears, chant USA!USA!USA!USA!

It'll fix everything. Really.

/epic facepalm

The article was about critics of Obama. This discussion is criticizing Newsweek, the author, or the cover. Not sure how that is backing up his claim. Get a life, troll.

 

[xBiffx]

The corract analogy would be Bush is Schettino.

Obama is the guy coming on board to organize a rescue of the people.

Meanwhile the GOP would be bitching that Obama is inept because some people died on the sinkling ship.

That's a funny analogy for sure. The funny part is that its easy to tell who the rescuers are and they aren't usually blaming you the whole time for inconveniencing them by buying a ticket on the cruise and at the same time checking your pockets for loose change while leading you deeper into the sinking ship and saying trust me, I know the way out.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's a funny analogy for sure. The funny part is that its easy to tell who the rescuers are and they aren't usually blaming you the whole time for inconveniencing them by buying a ticket on the cruise and at the same time checking your pockets for loose change while leading you deeper into the sinking ship and saying trust me, I know the way out.

Heh. Like I said- Hate 'um Obama!

Which is what Sullivan is talking about, that many of Obama's detractors aren't really rational.

Review the thread, count the posts of mindless derision, figure it out from there.

 

[Balt]

The corract analogy would be Bush is Schettino.

I would say Palin, personally. She abandoned her state so she could cash in. Thankfully she was never more than a governor.

Bush was definitely sinking the ship, but if not for term limits he may have been content to keep sinking with it all the way to the sea floor.

 

[Rainsford]

Obviously the cover was meant to attract attention (and I think it worked), which is actually pretty common for checkout stand magazines, in my experience. Newsweek coverage has never been quite as interested in strict journalistic integrity in the same way as, say, the NYT or Washington Post (certain conservatives, I'm anticipating any possible comment you could make here, and preemptively finding them all to be stupid ).

But aside from the provocative title, I think it raises a valid point. For all the legitimate complaints about President Obama, why is it that the bulk of the actual complaints being voiced sound like they're coming from 13 year olds?

 

[monovillage]

Nothing personal sweetheart. I can see why you feel threatened by someone who can read and think for himself. I understand your need to launch one emotional attack after another to compensate for your inability to actually offer anything on topic and substantive. I'm sure it makes P&N especially frustrating for you. It does seem you're unusually shrill today, however. Have you considered Midol?

You seemed to like Andrew Sullivan so much, I thought you deserved his award, it just fits you so damn well.

"The Poseur Alert is awarded for passages of prose that stand out for pretension, vanity and really bad writing designed to look like profundity."

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/awards.html

 

[monovillage]

.................. Newsweek coverage has never been quite as interested in strict journalistic integrity in the same way as, say, the NYT or Washington Post (certain conservatives, I'm anticipating any possible comment you could make here, and preemptively finding them all to be stupid ).
...............

What would be stupid is if you actually believed the New York Times wasn't biased to the Democrats and to the left. You can quite legitimately claim that it accurately reflects its location and readership, but not that it is unbiased.

Damn, i got called stupid again.

 

[tweaker2]

Looking at Obama through RoVe colored glasses tends to make rational thinking impossible. Hence......

 

[michal1980]

I read the article. The 2nd half basically tells the the liberals/left excatly what conservatives have been saying the whole time.

He's a socialist, just doing it slowly. - unverisal health care, etc etc. all part of his agenda.

 

[Craig234]

The thing with the right - sorry, A thing with the right - is that they've forgotten to have any limits to 'the right'.

When's the last time 'the right' generally has rejected ANY position no matter how far 'right'?

I don't mean an individual - a few times, a right-wing leader has tried to put a little limit on something - and each time has gotten his head bit off from the rest of the right.

A couple examples are John Boehner saying something and the right forcing him to do an about face, or a couple times like Newt Gingirch recently having to abandon his point.

It wouild be the equivalent of Democrats saying that all communist nations in history are too conservative, that nothing is too far left-wing. A 100% wealth tax? Sure!

Because of this, EVERYTHING not on the most radical right is 'leftist communist'.

That's why no matter what Obama does, he's a communist socialist radical leftist. Because these words are meaningless out of the mouths of these nutjobs.

William Buckley famously 'threw the John Birch Society out' of the right-wing movement as 'too far to the right', recognizing they were harmful to right.

I don't mean to compliment Buckley much - but to say even he had those limits. President Eisenhower viewed people with the views of today's mainstream right as 'nuts'.

They boo a gay soldier, they cheer the statement that South Carolina is at war with the federal government, they boo Ron Paul saying we should have a 'golden rule in foreign policy', they cheer electrified fences on the border and the statement that Rick Perry has executed more than any other governor, and so on.

The right has purged Republicans of any liberals and moderates and gone radical. They praise Reagan but have litmus tests Reagan fails badly as 'too liberal'.

They're the equivalent of political terrorists, willing to do almost anything to get their way no matter how harmful to the country, from politicizing nuclear proliferation to shutting down the government to putting the nation's credit rating at risk to cutting off healthcare for citizens.

Even a right-wing figure like a John Huntsman can't get more than a sliver of votes when every radical - Trump/Bachmann/Cain/Gingrich/Santorum/Perry - gets a turn in the lead.

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[Craig234]

The reason for the childish attacks on Obama is simple.

Proving a position is right is not easy.

What is easy is inciting hate.

The right has tried with things like 'trickle down economics' to prove a point - it's difficult and expensive and they end up looking like idiots anyway.

But just throwig out attacks on Obama is a lot easier and cheaper to get votes.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Obviously the cover was meant to attract attention (and I think it worked), which is actually pretty common for checkout stand magazines, in my experience. Newsweek coverage has never been quite as interested in strict journalistic integrity in the same way as, say, the NYT or Washington Post (certain conservatives, I'm anticipating any possible comment you could make here, and preemptively finding them all to be stupid ).

But aside from the provocative title, I think it raises a valid point. For all the legitimate complaints about President Obama, why is it that the bulk of the actual complaints being voiced sound like they're coming from 13 year olds?

I've made a comment in a predominately right forum which has members who act as described and there is a thread on Newsweek. What I said there was that the "children" who grasp at anything weaken more intelligent criticism which the independents might listen to, effectively sabotaging themselves. After all, it is they who will decide this election.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Who's the bigger joke...Newsweek or Andrew Sullivan...tough call.

 

[Zargon]

its certainly written while the author was wearing VERY rosey glasses

Yes, Obama has waged a war based on a reading of executive power that many civil libertarians, including myself, oppose. And he has signed into law the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens without trial (even as he pledged never to invoke this tyrannical power himself). But he has done the most important thing of all: excising the cancer of torture from military detention and military justice..

kind of glosses over the pres's biggest violation of the constitution, along with a) extending patriot act AGAIN), b)not shutting down GITMO like he said, and now basically allowing US Citizens to get sent there indefinately(but he promises he wont!!!) and says its OK because well atleast we can't be tortured(LEGALLY)



he does make some good points at times, but its sullied by the over bro-ner he has over obama