New Moto devices announced 7/28/15

[npaladin-2000]

I'm more excited about these moto phones then the one plus two.

I do have a question tho. Will the moto pure edition have wifi calling if I use it on tmobile?

I ask this because I'm on Verizon noe and my signal is great. I've had t mobile before and the signal in my house sucked but it was great everywhere else. I'd be willing to jump ship and use the moto on tmobile of the wifi calling worked

Nope, that only goes on phones that T-Mobile will sell themselves. So far they won't be carrying it. Not sure if that's Moto's fault, T-Mobile's or both.

 

[aceO07]

Man if only they made this in the same size as the original Moto X I'd be ordering one right now. Just have no interest in a device larger than 4.7. That's really pushing it for me too. 4.3-4.5 is my sweet spot. I've said it for the past 3 years and I'll keep saying it.

Same here. I'm not as interested in new phone releases anymore since they're all going 5+.

My favorite screen size so far is the Nexus 4, 4.7 with 1280x768 (instead of usual 1280x720).

 

[Megatomic]

I'm feeling really enthusiastic about the Moto X Pure. I think come January when my 2 year upgrade occurs that I will go for the 32GB model. It really is a good fit for my usage patterns.

 

[bgstcola]

Too big and no amoled = fail.

 

[soulcougher73]

Im a bit let down by what they are releasing. Was hoping for something better and not as big. 5" would be nice with high end specs

 

[ThisIsChrisKim]

Screen and camera may be flagship level (though probably not best in market if the camera is at the note 4 level), but everything else is last year flagship level (battery, soc, memory) for a phone in this size.

It's a very high midrange phone at midrange prices.

Aside from the OP2, what other 2015 flagships have more battery or memory?

Flagship is relative to the company. That company's top model is a flagship. It's not an absolute term, but a relative one.

 

[Bman123]

I don't care about the amoled screen leaving, those fuckers are expensive to replace if you break them. I've broken one in the last 5 years and it was so much to replace it that I bought a new phone.

 

[kpkp]

I don't care about the amoled screen leaving, those fuckers are expensive to replace if you break them. I've broken one in the last 5 years and it was so much to replace it that I bought a new phone.

I am with you, expensive and still issueless with longevity. I know quite a few people that didn't bother fixing a Galaxy phone after they heard the price (you can buy a Moto G instead).

 

[Bman123]

I am with you, expensive and still issueless with longevity. I know quite a few people that didn't bother fixing a Galaxy phone after they heard the price (you can buy a Moto G instead).

I know a few people that have bought a moto g after breaking a samsung screen.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I am with you, expensive and still issueless with longevity. I know quite a few people that didn't bother fixing a Galaxy phone after they heard the price (you can buy a Moto G instead).

I mean this year's Moto G is hard to beat. For most people its all the phone they need.

 

[Bman123]

Yeah this year's G is alot better then what they were before

 

[kpkp]

Yeah this year's G is alot better then what they were before

I would call it an adequate successor the original Moto G (at it's time was really good for the money). The second iteration was quite a meh.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Yeah this year's G is alot better then what they were before

Finally getting LTE, a 13 megapixel camera, and 2GB of RAM is huge for the Moto G. The 1GB of RAM really is what really held back the old Moto Gs, more than the SoC. And the SoC isn't bad, at the lowest end is where Qualcomm has the experience with vanilla SoCs so we can assume the Snapdragon 410 doesn't suck like the 810 does. The only real holdup is a 720p screen in a time filled with 1080p+, but it could be worse.

When you compare the Moto G to something like a iPhone 6 (sameish res screen, half the ram, etc.) you can see what a fantastic value Android can provide when you get away from flagships.

 

[altairauditore]

I think although the MotoG is 64bit capable, it'll run on 32bit Android because... of that darned 1GB RAM model.

They did the Moto Play wrong.
Should have made it smaller.. 4.8-5" 720p (or 1080p if battery permits) display, S618 2GB RAM, + current cameras.. + waterproof.

Love the build & specs (except for S615.. we need S618); disappointed about the size.

 

[middlehead]

They lost me with the size, even with adding microSD back in. If I get a Motorola this year it'd have to be a G, and I don't think I can live with 16GB internal anymore.

I need to get something soon, and I don't think I can wait for the next Nexus so it'll probably have to be an OP2. That's still bigger than I'd like, but it at least has capacitive buttons.

 

[s44]

I think although the MotoG is 64bit capable

Huh, I'd thought the 410 still used A7! Just looked it up and it's A53.

OK, I feel much better about this device. The 2gb one is definitely recommendable.

 

[Cakefish]

They lost me with the size, even with adding microSD back in. If I get a Motorola this year it'd have to be a G, and I don't think I can live with 16GB internal anymore.

I need to get something soon, and I don't think I can wait for the next Nexus so it'll probably have to be an OP2. That's still bigger than I'd like, but it at least has capacitive buttons.

I feel the same way. What I really desire is the next Nexus, but I'm really hankering for a phone with much longer battery life than my current Nexus 5 ASAP (plus the oleophobic coating has worn off the display).

I think that either the Play or Style could make for a perfect stop-gap phone for me until the new Nexus is released. I'm just really having trouble deciding between them. The mono speaker and Snapdragon 615 are what puts me off the Play, while the smaller battery capacity and later release date are what gives me second thoughts about the Style.

 

[s44]

I feel the same way. What I really desire is the next Nexus, but I'm really hankering for a phone with much longer battery life than my current Nexus 5 ASAP (plus the oleophobic coating has worn off the display).

The OPO (with new, lower price) might be a decent option, assuming they aren't shipping out crappy touchscreens any more. Definitely better than the OP2.

 

[magomago]

The play version looks good because of the huge battery life, but we'll see if that translates to excellent performance...my guess is no. Nexus phones when compared to phones of similar battery capacity tend to do worse.

Complete WTF on the Pure/Style with having not only a smaller battery, but having that smaller battery push a larger QHD screen. Who wants to bet battery life will still be worse than the Galaxy S6/LG G4?

I suppose the Moto X play is going to be targeted to those who want to game on their phone a lot...but again it assumes that the battery life will indeed be reflective of its much larger storage capacity

Interesting times!

 

[shortylickens]

I think waterproof bodies should be the standard from now on.

 

[kpkp]

The play version looks good because of the huge battery life, but we'll see if that translates to excellent performance...my guess is no. Nexus phones when compared to phones of similar battery capacity tend to do worse.

Motorola isn't Nexus, Google used to refuse to use Qualcomm optimized bits and used their general bits instead. That's not true for Motorola. The only possible screw-up IMO would be if they used an inefficient display like the ZenFone 2.

Complete WTF on the Pure/Style with having not only a smaller battery, but having that smaller battery push a larger QHD screen. Who wants to bet battery life will still be worse than the Galaxy S6/LG G4?

The Style battery wont be stellar, I expect it to be slightly worse then Nexus 6. It's called Style, style over substance, Play is a chunky more boxy phone while Style is way more curvaceous (slim on the sides).

I suppose the Moto X play is going to be targeted to those who want to game on their phone a lot...but again it assumes that the battery life will indeed be reflective of its much larger storage capacity

I would say it's a way wider audience than "gamers", battery life is a top priority when choosing a phone according to quite some surveys.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I'm feeling really enthusiastic about the Moto X Pure. I think come January when my 2 year upgrade occurs that I will go for the 32GB model. It really is a good fit for my usage patterns.

Hoping the battery holds up though. Had they stuck with 5.5" and 1080p, I think this phone would've been a huge win.

 

[stlc8tr]

Finally getting LTE, a 13 megapixel camera, and 2GB of RAM is huge for the Moto G. The 1GB of RAM really is what really held back the old Moto Gs, more than the SoC. And the SoC isn't bad, at the lowest end is where Qualcomm has the experience with vanilla SoCs so we can assume the Snapdragon 410 doesn't suck like the 810 does. The only real holdup is a 720p screen in a time filled with 1080p+, but it could be worse.

When you compare the Moto G to something like a iPhone 6 (sameish res screen, half the ram, etc.) you can see what a fantastic value Android can provide when you get away from flagships.

I'm not currently in the market but the Zen Fone 2 seems like a better deal from first glance. High res screen, faster SoC, etc.

Of course, the hurdle might be getting use to ZenUI but I suppose you can always slap a custom ROM on it.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I'm not currently in the market but the Zen Fone 2 seems like a better deal from first glance. High res screen, faster SoC, etc.

I kinda see the Moto G in a different category due to American blinders.

The difference to me is that a "normal" will be able to go to a store and buy a Moto G and get it to work on say Verizon. Like some random family member asks me "What phone to get?" I can recommend a Moto G and know that they can get that themselves and get someone at the phone store to set it up. The Zen Fone is more a "you know what you are doing phone."

The competition to the Moto G for a "normal" is a flagship phone or a last year's model.

Of course, the hurdle might be getting use to ZenUI but I suppose you can always slap a custom ROM on it.

Not quite as easily as you would think because of that Intel SoC. With Qualcomm SoCs the community can crank out a pretty stable CM quickly because there is a lot of experience. Just a quick glance on XDA shows me the Zen Fone 2 has no full featured AOSP rom yet and little hope to ever have one thanks to that SoC.

If you don't care about OEM skins and you are a savvy buyer it is a better deal for sure. Asus is usually pretty good about Android updates, even if I find their build quality to be meh personally.

 

[magomago]

Motorola isn't Nexus, Google used to refuse to use Qualcomm optimized bits and used their general bits instead. That's not true for Motorola. The only possible screw-up IMO would be if they used an inefficient display like the ZenFone 2.


The Style battery wont be stellar, I expect it to be slightly worse then Nexus 6. It's called Style, style over substance, Play is a chunky more boxy phone while Style is way more curvaceous (slim on the sides).



I would say it's a way wider audience than "gamers", battery life is a top priority when choosing a phone according to quite some surveys.

Interesting - thanks for the info. I had no idea there are 'QC optimized bits'...is Google eyeing another SoC, or they simply don't want Android's stock baseline to be tied to proprietory technology from QC? To an extent, unless there is another player for chips, I see this as a moot point...or they should find a way to modularize these bits to reduce risk of being tied to QC.

I agree battery life has a way wider audience, but lots of people pick style over substance

If the phone delivers on battery life it will definitely turn heads! 3630mA with just a 1080p screen should deliver amazing SoT.