New Meth law here in TN

[Slap]

Sine we have the third highest meth labs behind MO and Iowa, a new law starts today. No more buying sudaphed unless you ask for it from a pharmacist.

"NASHVILLE -- Stuffy noses, beware! You've got until 10:30 this morning to buy certain decongestants at places other than pharmacies, thanks to Tennessee's new anti-methamphetamine law.

The law gives retailers 24 hours after Gov. Phil Bredesen signed it at 10:30 Wednesday to remove products that contain pseudoephedrine from their shelves, except those in liquid, soft-gelatin or liquid-filled capsule form.

Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant found in many popular over-the-counter cold, allergy and sinus products that will become behind-the-counter products as a result of the law. Except for those in the acceptable forms, the products must be sold only in pharmacies, although buyers will not need a prescription.

The ban on sales in stores without pharmacies goes into effect this morning. The law gives pharmacies -- including those inside other retailers -- 30 days to move the products behind their counters, where they can be sold only by a pharmacist, pharmacist technician or pharmacy intern. "

 

[Pliablemoose]

I think they need to start fingerprinting the people who buy this stuff & tracking them.

 

[Zebo]

De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

 

[conjur]

There was talk of passing a law here in KY that would make possessing 3 of the 4 ingredients in making meth (3 of them being rather common household items) a crime in which one could be charged with intent to produce and distribute meth.

 

[NTB]

We've had pseudoephedrine laws in effect here for a few years. Like you said, there are a few meth labs here in MO 😛 Regular stores can still sell it, but they have to keep it locked up, and we can only sell, I believe, two or three packages to any one person at any time. When I was working retail, I actually had people give me a fit when they couldn't buy a whole bag full of sudafed. We also once caught a guy with all the necesary stuff for a meth lab in the trunk of his car out in the parking lot. He came in to buy the ingredients.

Nate

 

[Rhin0]

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

I guess the state has no right to tell people they aren't allowed to endager the lives of others or pollute the environment with labs either.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: Rhin0

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

I guess the state has no right to tell people they aren't allowed to endager the lives of others or pollute the environment with labs either.

no kidding, especially with a meth lab. One errant spark and poof! there goes the house (and possibly the houses next to it)😛

Nate

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: Rhin0

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

I guess the state has no right to tell people they aren't allowed to endager the lives of others or pollute the environment with labs either.

no kidding, especially with a meth lab. One errant spark and poof! there goes the house (and possibly the houses next to it)😛

Nate

Exactly, not to mention the mobile "labs" in which everything is in the trunk of a car. It's like driving a bomb.

Iowa just passed a pretty tough law on precursors too. I'm not sure I like the idea of having to ask for a non-prescription drug - but I don't like the idea of Meth either. I sure hope the drug manufacturers roll out that new replacement drug soon(can't be made into meth) - it'll make this sort of law unnecessary.

CsG

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

Meth != Weed

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

Meth != Weed

Meth is very dangerous, i agree with legalizing weed, but meth is just horrible. It is pretty much guaranteed to destroy your life and it is a threat to everyone around you.

 

[tbrooks40]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I think they need to start fingerprinting the people who buy this stuff & tracking them.

well that's just stupid!

i buy this stuff regularly *edit to add... for sinuses* and have been quite inconvenienced as the stores here in Elkhart, IN and a few here in MI have voluntarily removed the generic actifed from the shelves and put them behind the customer service and pharmacy counters.

if you need some of this late at night you are often times SOOL as the service desks are closed.

it's just plain stupid considering all this does is just make your stay longer at the grocery store no matter why you are buying the stuff :frown: they don't ask you for any personal information or anything - just hand you what you ask for and thats it. so what's the point!

yet another senseless law that only punishes the wrong group of people!

:thumbsdown:

what they need to do is track those who are buying this stuff by the cases as you need quite a bit of it i hear if you want to make crystal meth.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I think they need to start fingerprinting the people who buy this stuff & tracking them.

Fingerprint? Oh hell no.. implant them with RFIDs...

 

[Yellow Dog]

the left overs from cooking meth is some really bad stuff. All too often the trailer park queen and here looser and currently out of jail boyfriend are cooking this meth with little kids running around the house. Schools are starting to ban home cooked goodies brought for the class because of the number of people cooking meth, and they don't want these poisions given to other kids.

TN should be applauded for getting off their backsides and actually doing something. NC, is talking about it, but that does nothing. Talk is cheap, thus I guess that makes most politicians no more than cheap whores.

 

[randym431]

Yes iOwa is, or will also ban cold meds over the counter. Yes, more meth comes from iOwa than Mexico. Why? Cause iOwa sucks, backwards hicks and the State taxes its people into the ground, while offering little or nothing for such high tax rates. No company in their right mind wants to come to iOwa! Very anti-Gay, anti-race, anti-elderly and anti-teen. So they wonder why jobs and college grads leave iOwa in droves. The legis gov here was going to eliminate state tax, but only for those under age 30. They actually thought they could keep college grads here by giving them an extra $600 a year in tax savings. As you guess, that idea didn?t live long, but thats how they think. Iowans gota have other income sources (drugs). Hey, the states speed limit is only 65 (55 many places), and so far they wont raise it to 75 (like most every other state). Thats cause meth heads can only drive up to 65. iOwa's a weird place!!!

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: Rhin0

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

I guess the state has no right to tell people they aren't allowed to endager the lives of others or pollute the environment with labs either.

no kidding, especially with a meth lab. One errant spark and poof! there goes the house (and possibly the houses next to it)😛

Nate

A decent sized meth lab could take out a city block.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

85% of all property crime in Salem, OR is currently meth related, so you'll have to excuse me for not agreeing with this POV.

 

[maluckey]

Arkansas has had laws similar to those in Tennessee for three years now, and Meth prices have gone through the roof. Arkansas fell from number one in the world for Meth quality and the number of labs per capita, to almost nothing comparatively.

I used to have to investigate Meth labs. Raycal suits are needed. An accidental spill can contaminate the ground so bad that the yard itself has to be removed and specially treated. The oly thing worse than making a bust at a Meth lab is finding that you are in a Fentanyl lab. They take out part of the neighborhood, not just the house involved.

 

[Taejin]

I know this is a bit off topic from the thread - but I wish there were more threads like this in P&N

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

85% of all property crime in Salem, OR is currently meth related, so you'll have to excuse me for not agreeing with this POV.

How do you feel about gun control?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

85% of all property crime in Salem, OR is currently meth related, so you'll have to excuse me for not agreeing with this POV.

How do you feel about gun control?

What does gun control have to do with meth?:Q

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

85% of all property crime in Salem, OR is currently meth related, so you'll have to excuse me for not agreeing with this POV.

How do you feel about gun control?

What does gun control have to do with meth?:Q

Just want to see if you're consistent about whether objects cause crime or people cause crime (you know, "it takes a person to pull the trigger" argument).

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

Have you ever seen someone who has been smoking meth non non stop for over a week with no sleep? They go crazy! They get paranoid and start seeing things and often act out in violence.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

85% of all property crime in Salem, OR is currently meth related, so you'll have to excuse me for not agreeing with this POV.

How do you feel about gun control?

What does gun control have to do with meth?:Q

Just want to see if you're consistent about whether objects cause crime or people cause crime (you know, "it takes a person to pull the trigger" argument).

Does a gun alter your chemistry? Do you get chemically addicted to a gun? How long does it take for one to come off a "gun high"? :roll:

Nice try infohawk, but your little comparison doesn't work.

CsG

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Zebo
De-crimminalize drugs. The state has no business telling someone what they can put into thier body (at great expense I might add to our citizens, taxpayers, courts, and prisons)

They have absolutely every right to say that the people of Tennessee cannot put meth in thier bodies. My taxes have to pay for these unemployed druggies for thier medical care, etc. My taxes have to pay for the increased need for police enforcement. These unemployed meth addicts need money for the drugs. Guess where they get it? Theft. I know I lived next door at one time to a meth addict. So how is de-criminlizing meth going to save me tax money?

 

[daveshel]

Decriminalize weed and spend the savings on meth enforcement.