New machine problems

Warder45

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I built my brothers machine up here today. Everything seemed to be going fine. I'm useing a DFI Lanparty UT board, so it has some diagnastic LED in the corner. The first run through I have the memory in the 2 orange slots (recommeded by DFI), and the LED's make it all the way through and I start installing windows. At this point I started getting the Blue Screens, one saying the file NTFS.sys caused the error, another said isapnp.sys caused it. Some start a memory dump others do not.

I've tried multiple options, including swapping out the CD drive and swapping out the hard drive with no luck. I even tried 2 completely different versions of windows XP home and it has had no effect.

After doing a search on google for one of the problems, some responses have been that the memory could be bad. Just for fun I moved the memory from the orange slots to the yellow ones and tried again, this time however the LED's on the motherboard wouldn't get past the DRAM detected stage. Adding to that the computer had been on for 2 hours at about 60 degree temp, and the memory modules were very hot, not so much that I couldn't touch them but noticably.

So anyone have any ideas? I'm pretty sure it's the memory however it seems to check out fine in the bios. The only other option I can think of is that it might be the motherboard, but that is only a long shot. Thanks for any help.

EDIT: I'm useing PQI memory as seen here

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-152&depa=0

So far i've heard nothing but good things about them, however I suppose even high end makers have some faultly sticks.
 

Warder45

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Thanks, but i realized I had extra sticks of memory laying around and stuck them in. So far no blue screens, and I got through all of the windows installation. Looks like another RMA to newegg, this is getting annoying. Thanks for the help.
 

HarvardAce

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I have the same problem. Built a new computer, went to install Windows XP Home from the CD, and I've had the following issues:
  • System hangs when CD first boots up and checks for hardware.
  • Blue screens during first boot from hard drive (with the IRQL error, or sometimes NTFS.sys or isapnp.sys
  • Hangs during various parts of the install for WinXP
I disabled System Cache, disabled the SATA channels I'm not using, and tried again.
I finally got XP installed, started to install the drivers, and got some install errors. Rebooted, reinstalled the drivers, worked fine. Went to install SP2, seemed to go fine, rebooted, and I got errors trying to boot up about the Logon User Interface missing a dll. Formatted, reinstalled XP, no problems this time. Installed the drivers, then went to install SP2, and now I'm getting a mismatch with the manifest file.

Ran memtest86 and it found 2 errors on test 5. I had to go to work at this point (where I am now), but I'm going to stop home at lunch and tinker with it some more. Should I assume that this is a problem with my memory? The 2 errors were pretty low in the address bank (0.0MB and 0.9MB). I'm guessing I should try upping the voltage on the memory and rerun the test while I'm at work for the rest of the day, but just wanted to see if any of you had other suggestions.

Specs (nothing is overclocked, everything is brand new):
* Athlon 3500+ (winchester core, stock fan)
* DFI UL LanParty Ultra
* 2x 512 Crucial Ballistix 3200 (in slots 2 and 4, running in 1 and 3 caused a message that I should run them in 2 and 4 at POST)
* WD Raptor 74GB (main drive, SATA 1, tried 3/4 as well)
* WD 200GB SATA (SATA 2)
* XFX GeForce 6800GT 256MB
* NEC DVD+/-RW
* Antec NeoPower 480W

I also noticed that my chipset is running at about 55C under moderate load, everything else is around 40 or lower. Is this normal? The video card is sitting almost flush with the fan on the chipset, could this be part of the problem?
 

HarvardAce

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Went home for lunch, upped voltage to 2.7, and reran tests 5 and 8 (which I read are the ones that most often find problems in Athlon systems). Got a bunch of errors this time. Tried swapping the slots, and I got even more errors. Took out a stick of RAM, still got the errors. Put in the other stick, and I haven't seen any errors. I now have it running on the full test while I'm back at work.

It looks like I have a bad stick of RAM. Since I just bought it, is it easier to do the RMA through newegg or through Crucial? Will either pay for shipping back to them?
 

Warder45

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Yeah mine has been running pretty good with this old ram so it had to be the new stuff. I still get weird CPU usage spikes every so often, I'm hopeing once I get some better/more RAM that will go away.
 

HarvardAce

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I was still having some problems with just the one stick of RAM once I started playing World of Warcraft. I went into BIOS, relaxed my memory timings (was set at SPD @ 2-2-3 (or is it 2-3-2)?, now 2.5-3-4), re-ran memtest86 on both sticks of RAM, and got no problems. Has anyone else had troubles with the DFI UL LanParty Ultra running high-end RAM at the SPD settings?