Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
- Feb 14, 2004
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The MacBook Airs have PCIe SSDs too!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7058/2013-macbook-air-pcie-ssd-and-haswell-ult-inside
It is about time. Hallelujah!
Yes, there is no internal expansion. So, for the GPUs at most you'll get is daughter cards, but there's a good chance everything is soldered.
Not sure about that. Apple's official "New Mac Pro" photo that includes the 2 AMD GPU's appear to be more or less standard PC video cards, except that the end brackets are chopped off. They're shown attached to the triangular shaped central column for heat transfer purposes. Most likely serviceable at a Genius Bar at least, if not by the end user.
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Not sure about that. Apple's official "New Mac Pro" photo that includes the 2 AMD GPU's appear to be more or less standard PC video cards, except that the end brackets are chopped off. They're shown attached to the triangular shaped central column for heat transfer purposes. Most likely serviceable at a Genius Bar at least, if not by the end user.
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I was very excited about this. 800MB/s!
So... how well do you guys think this thing will run games?I mean these FirePro GPU's aren't exactly meant for that right.
I'm only going to buy a mac for my main station. I'm a casual Mac gamer (which means I play very few games) but when I do I want it to run well.
FirePro vs Radeon & Quadro vs GeForce is mostly a marketing/driver difference. The hardware is the same, and you can swap out drivers (at least in Windows) like you swap out tires (so there's a little work involved, but not too time consuming). I don't know what they are going to be doing with this, but the raw performance is certainly there, it's just a matter of having the drivers and OS telling it what to do with it.
Not sure about that. Apple's official "New Mac Pro" photo that includes the 2 AMD GPU's appear to be more or less standard PC video cards, except that the end brackets are chopped off. They're shown attached to the triangular shaped central column for heat transfer purposes. Most likely serviceable at a Genius Bar at least, if not by the end user.
Is the Mac Pro OP for Candy Crush? :sneaky:
Those two pictured AMD GPU's are not identical. The one on the right also includes a small ~1" wide white "ledge" which is used as a proprietary PCIe socket for the system SSD storage. I suppose there could be made available a pair of equivalent nVidia GPU compatible replacement parts, but sort of seems unlikely.According to this close-up from Anand, he is saying that they are removable. And if they are removable, they are replaceable.
I was very excited about this. 800MB/s!
Those two pictured AMD GPU's are not identical. The one on the right also includes a small ~1" wide white "ledge" which is used as a proprietary PCIe socket for the system SSD storage. I suppose there could be made available a pair of equivalent nVidia GPU compatible replacement parts, but sort of seems unlikely.
Apple's attitude of "my way or the highway", etc.
I'm pretty bummed that you can't swap out the GPUs, but I love this machine overall.
Well, except for the GPU's being "AMD only".
Maybe they'll relent and offer optional nVidia workstation GPU's?
^ I wish this was universally true. I can't speak for every 'high end entertainment' company of course, but for the ones I can... you've rarely in your life met a cheaper bunch of penny-pinching bastards.
People absolutely rely on local rendering, hell I wish I had my own network renderer. There's a hell of a lot more to production than the final output- there's tons of work that gets done long before that. IT is not tossing machines out either. I do LOOOOVE the idea that I can just snap my fingers and get a new top of the line workstation out of thin air though... here, let me give it a try...
...hello? Hello? New high end workstation please? Hello?
Nope. It's not working.![]()
Man, that would be nice though.
Not doubting there are places where this red-carpet service happens for all the mere mortals of production... but I haven't as yet worked for any of them. (WB, Fox, Universal, a host of smaller production houses and studios, etc.)
I didn't say it wasn't. In fact, I said I wish I had one at work right now. I even tried snapping my fingers at IT for one but I didn't get quite the response I had hoped for.And what makes you think that this machine isn't capable of performing local rendering at a comparable rare (or higher) to the other currently high end workstations on the market?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually cheaper to buy an iMac and then resell it every year to buy a new one.I like the idea of this pro because it's a desktop that'll last. Currently, my ivy bridge macbook air is enough for everything except my occasional gaming.
Why would I buy the pro? Well...I want a desktop for my home. I'm going to buy ONE desktop computer, and will have it for at least 4-5-6 years i imagine. Over that amount of time, does it matter if it's 1500 or 3000? Not really.
So people are guessing 2500 USD on this, isn't that a bit low? Surely apple will tax this a fair bit higher, given design innovation, dual GPU's etc? Aren't we looking at 4000+ here?
