new logitech mouseware drivers are up, released 11/27/02

spyordie007

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I noticed they had new drivers for my cordless freedom optical keyboard/mouse set. But the new features they list are not worth my while, I'll probably get around to it eventually but this thread will long since be gone...

-Spy
 

vash

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Looking to hear some feedback from the gamers here as well. My dual optical won't come close to another set of broken Logitech drivers (for games) until it has been fixed. Its a good thing, that Half-Life, supports all the buttons my existing mouse has. I wish that could be said the same for all Quake3 titles, along with UT2K3.

vash
 

manly

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Works for me in Counter-Strike 1.5 (I don't really play any other games). On a Dual Optical MouseMan, the tracking is much faster than the stock Windows driver, so I had to lower the sensitivity. When I was briefly demo'ing the Cordless Optical MouseMan, the stock Windows driver performed quite poorly so the Logitech driver probably was the way to go.

I realize that older versions of MouseWare didn't seamlessly support the scroll wheel in all games, but I'm surprised there's so much trepidation over Logitech mouse drivers. There's probably a similar thread to this over in Peripherals.
 

Mutilator

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I downloaded these the other day... seems pretty good.
At first my thumb button wouldn't work in BF1942 but after some reassignments to my thumb and middle wheel button (both use to be set to middle button) I got it working again. Now BF picks the thumb button up as mouse 4 instead of mouse 3. Finally 4 distinct buttons on my mouseman dual optical. :)
Too bad I never use the wheel button in games. ;)
 

vash

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Here's a quick skinny on what they did for me (using Logitech Dual Optical)

In Half-Life, I was able to bound the mouse middle button, thumb button and use mousewheel. The drivers ONLY added me using the middle button, the existing drivers let me do the rest already.

In Soldier of Fortune 2, I could no longer bind to the thumb button at all and the middle button was being seen as Mouse1. This is unfortunate that I can't play SoF2 in the same manner as before.

With their current driver set, I will uninstall them and go back to base WinXP drivers for the mouse. If Logitech were to look for some beta driver testers, for games, they should come here, ask around and possibly get some help. Microsoft's mice don't have problems binding in all the games I play, only Logitech's mice.

vash
 

manly

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Originally posted by: vash
Here's a quick skinny on what they did for me (using Logitech Dual Optical)

In Half-Life, I was able to bound the mouse middle button, thumb button and use mousewheel. The drivers ONLY added me using the middle button, the existing drivers let me do the rest already.

In Soldier of Fortune 2, I could no longer bind to the thumb button at all and the middle button was being seen as Mouse1. This is unfortunate that I can't play SoF2 in the same manner as before.

With their current driver set, I will uninstall them and go back to base WinXP drivers for the mouse. If Logitech were to look for some beta driver testers, for games, they should come here, ask around and possibly get some help. Microsoft's mice don't have problems binding in all the games I play, only Logitech's mice.

vash
Can you separate the Logitech drivers from the MouseWare utility in your analysis? I haven't tried, but I suspect the Logitech drivers are not the problem. Some others have gone so far as to recommend using the Logitech drivers + MS Intellipoint software.
 

vexingv

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running a mx500 and just fired up UT2k3 and i cant bind the mouseup/mousedn to change weapons...tried all the fixes--new mouseware 9.75, logitech registry fix, and manually closing em_exec.exe--but still doesnt work anyone have a solution to this problem?

sidenote: the wheel does seem to work in half-life, but i havent gotten it to work in nolf2 either
 

vexingv

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Posted by manly:
Can you separate the Logitech drivers from the MouseWare utility in your analysis? I haven't tried, but I suspect the Logitech drivers are not the problem. Some others have gone so far as to recommend using the Logitech drivers + MS Intellipoint software.

i just read the drivers readme and this is what it says:
1.2.1 Drivers-Only Installation for Windows 2000 and XP

Please execute the following steps to perform a drivers-only
installation for Windows 2000 and Windows XP:

1) Click on the "Start" button on the Windows Desktop.
2) Select "Settings", then "Control Panel".
3) From the Control Panel, double click on the "System" icon.
4) From the System Properties, click on the "Hardware" tab.
5) Click on the "Device Manager" button.
6) From the Device Manager, double click the "Mouse" icon.
7) Double click on the Mouse Type icon.
8) From the Mouse Properties dialog box, click on the "Driver"
tab, then click on the "Update Driver" button.
9) From the "Update Device Driver Wizard", click the "Next"
button.
10) Click on the radio button next to:
"Display a list of the known drivers for this device so
that I can choose a specific driver"
11) Click on the "Next" button.
12) Click on the "Have Disk" button.
13) When prompted, click the "Browse" button.
14) From the "Locate File" dialog box, go to the "Win2K_XP"
folder on the MouseWare Disk/CD-ROM.
15) Click the "Open" button.
16) From the "Install From Disk" dialog box, click the "OK"
button.
17) Under "Manufacturers", select "Logitech".
18) Under "Models", select the correct model that matches the
pointing device type and click on the "Next" button.
19) If the "Update Driver Warning" appears, click on the "Yes"
button.
20) Click on the "Next" button.
21) Windows should now copy the updated mouse drivers to the
system.
22) Click on the "Finish" button.
23) Click on the "Close" button.
24) Windows should now ask you to restart the system for the
changes to take effect, click on "Yes" to restart the system.

but since we're downloading an automated installer how can we isolate the files cuz if you just open the exe it starts the install of both software and drivers?
also, whats the purpose of this? install logitech drivers then install MS mouse properties panel? i thought the logitech drivers were the property panel which allowed you to customize buttons. doing the MS install would probably install its own dirver and software making the previous steps superfluous.
 

manly

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Originally posted by: vexingv

but since we're downloading an automated installer how can we isolate the files cuz if you just open the exe it starts the install of both software and drivers?
also, whats the purpose of this? install logitech drivers then install MS mouse properties panel? i thought the logitech drivers were the property panel which allowed you to customize buttons. doing the MS install would probably install its own dirver and software making the previous steps superfluous.
If you start the .exe installer and choose Custom, you can uncheck MouseWare. :)

The purpose of this is because the drivers alone provides the necessary, full support for the hardware itself. The MouseWare or Intellipoint software allows for button mapping and things like that. Unless I am mistaken, the drivers and the utility software are separate entities, which was why I had asked vash if it's possible to separate his analysis.
 

vexingv

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manly,
the logitech installer wont continue unless you check mouseware option (this is v9.75) otherwise there will just be a grayed out continue box.

i did a driver install only by coppying the files that were extracted from the installer into a different directory...it was located in the C:\Documents and Settings\[profile]\Local Settings\Temp\pft3~tmp folder...then i just followed the instructions to do a driver install only. once they were installed i still had functionality in all the buttons on my mx500 except for the taskswitch/quickswitch button and the cruise control buttons are very slow and scroll according to the number of lines you have choose in TweakUI. despite having only the drivers installed, the scroll wheel in games is still not recognized !!

so then i proceeded to install the MS intellipoint software (v4.1). however when that was installed, the logitech drivers on it were removed and it had MS drivers. the mousewheel does work with the MS software in games, but the cruise conrol buttons are also mapped as mouse up/down. in addition the taskswitch button does not work. so i tried to install the logitech drivers on top of the MS drivers and intellipoint software, but then the intellipoint software is no longer there in the control panel of the mouse.

so in conlusion, there is no point in doing a driver install only if you're trying to make your logitech mouse work in games...and installing MS intellipoint software after doing a driver install only (for the logitech) will just overwrite the logitech drivers...i'm using Intellipoint right now since it works in games, but is there any hope in getting mouseware to work in games??