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[lemmiwinks]

I recently bought a Hyundai L90D+ to replace an old Dell CRT. The size is great but for some reason it hurts my eyes. Is this normal for people who switch from CRT to LCD? Is it just something you get used to? Also, I can seem to find the right brightness/contrast even with the included calibrating program, is there a third party program that someone could recommend? Thx

 

[imported_ArtVandalay]

Wow, goes to show you how much CRTs (and maybe eyes) vary - I switched from an NEC 19" CRT to the l90d and my eyes have been heartily thanking me ever since. I found their calibration program to be fine. I have a few settings; the 'bright' (properly calibrated) one and the 'low light' one I use, especially at night when websurfing, when the regular seems a tad too bright.

Edit: make sure you turn on ClearType (Display Properties > Appearance > Effects > Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts: > ClearType) - until I did this, text appeared pretty grainy.

 

[lemmiwinks]

artvandalay, does your "properly calibrated" settings make the screen seem dark? also, what are your brightness/constrast numbers on the monitor and in your program?

 

[imported_ArtVandalay]

Originally posted by: lemmiwinks
artvandalay, does your "properly calibrated" settings make the screen seem dark? also, what are your brightness/constrast numbers on the monitor and in your program?

The properly calibrated setting doesn't make it seem dark, no - in fact, the opposite - it occasionally seems too bright, especially when websurfing at night. The CRT I was coming from, it should be mentioned, seemed weird to me in that the light colors always seemed too light while the darks always seemed too dark, so take that as you will. My 'properly calibrated' settings are 60 brightness, 70 contrast, at the monitor's native resolution of 1280x1024.

 

[akugami]

You might want to turn the brightness down to 40-50. Most LCDs are extremely bright compared to CRT's. I have a system here that's using a LCD on the left side and a CRT on the right side (desktop extends across both so it's like one extended monitor). The CRT is for gaming and the LCD is mostly for web browsing. There is a very noticeable brightness difference even after turning the brightness of my LCD down to 50.

 

[Matt2]

WHen I switched it was like I was reborn. LCD should in no way hurt your eyes. MAke sure you are running the native resolution and hgihest refresh rate possible

 

[lemmiwinks]

I'm assuming that 60/70 are the settings achieved after calibrating with ImageTune. What are these numbers on the actual monitor? Also, when dimming your monitor for night use, do you adjust only your brightness? Thanks for all your help.

 

[lemmiwinks]

is 60 hertz low for an LCD? thats the only setting available for my native resolution (1280x1024).

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Matt2
WHen I switched it was like I was reborn. LCD should in no way hurt your eyes. MAke sure you are running the native resolution and hgihest refresh rate possible

Refresh rate does not matter for LCDs. They do not refresh in the way that CRTs do.
In an LCD, each pixel remains the same until it's instructed to do something different.
In a CRT, each pixel is lit for a tiny fraction of a second, then it goes dark, requiring refreshing the next time the electron gun scans past. That's why you see flicker - the pixels begin going dark as soon as the electron beam passes. The shorter the delay (quicker refresh), the less flicker you see.

 

[imported_ArtVandalay]

Originally posted by: lemmiwinks
I'm assuming that 60/70 are the settings achieved after calibrating with ImageTune. What are these numbers on the actual monitor? Also, when dimming your monitor for night use, do you adjust only your brightness? Thanks for all your help. is 60 hertz low for an LCD? thats the only setting available for my native resolution (1280x1024).

Yes, 60/70 is the setting achieved with ImageTune. What do you mean by 'actual monitor'? I have the 60/70 setting as my default, so if that's what you mean, then that's what the actual monitor is set at. I have mine set at 1280x1024x75hz (highest refresh available at native res). A lower max refresh at that res may mean your video card isn't up to the task, or needs newer drivers.

 

[IEC]

Here's a hint from an early-adopter of LCD technology

Use the native resolution of your LCD monitor, which is most likely 1280x1024 (otherwise it gets pixellated)

Use a refresh rate of 60 hertz... LCDs don't need any more than this, and more tends to make the screen jerky

Turn the brightness DOWN, but leave the contrast UP

 

[lemmiwinks]

What I meant by actual monitor was when you pushed menu at the bottom of the screen, what was the brightness and contrast there? and if you ever adjusted them? Under display properites, does your computer recognize your monitor or does it just say 'plug and play'? I have a x700pro with new drivers so I have a hard time believing my video card isnt working right.

 

[boringwall]

Lemmi, .... do you play DAoC?

 

[Porter21]

Originally posted by: lemmiwinks
I recently bought a Hyundai L90D+ to replace an old Dell CRT. The size is great but for some reason it hurts my eyes. Is this normal for people who switch from CRT to LCD? Is it just something you get used to? Also, I can seem to find the right brightness/contrast even with the included calibrating program, is there a third party program that someone could recommend? Thx

I have an auto-adjuster on mine. I have a samsung 15 inch 512n. If the screen is a little off while watching dvds, I just hit a button and it calibrates it. Then when you go back to like the internet for example, it looks strange, so I hit the button again. You want to make sure you lcd is set to its native resolution to.

 

[lemmiwinks]

Originally posted by: boringwall
Lemmi, .... do you play DAoC?

no.

 

[imported_ArtVandalay]

Originally posted by: lemmiwinks
What I meant by actual monitor was when you pushed menu at the bottom of the screen, what was the brightness and contrast there? and if you ever adjusted them? Under display properites, does your computer recognize your monitor or does it just say 'plug and play'? I have a x700pro with new drivers so I have a hard time believing my video card isnt working right.

Ah, never played around with that button. Seems to be the same controls I get via the ImageTune software though, and it's set to the same (when I checked by playing with the buttons) as I had set it to using the software. When you say you have the "new" drivers for your video card, do you mean what came with it on CD? With video drivers you should *always* run the latest version of Driver Cleaner (google) before installing the newest drivers from the chip manufacturer's website (nvidia or ati).

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: akugami
You might want to turn the brightness down to 40-50. Most LCDs are extremely bright compared to CRT's. I have a system here that's using a LCD on the left side and a CRT on the right side (desktop extends across both so it's like one extended monitor). The CRT is for gaming and the LCD is mostly for web browsing. There is a very noticeable brightness difference even after turning the brightness of my LCD down to 50.

 

[lemmiwinks]

I actually just reformated my computer a week ago. The drivers I got off off ATIs website can't be more then 2 weeks old.

 

[pkypkypky]

i'm in the same boat as you. All LCDs that I've tried have been too bright for my eyes to handle. Esp when you look at a white background, it's blinding! CRT all the way for me right now

 

[w00t]

I would check your refresh rate.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I started avoiding my old desktop after I came home with my laptop over the summer. I tested a few LCDs over the sumemr and then switched around with the CRT. I've been on LCD for the past 3 weeks at home and it looks AWESOME.

Yesterday I hooked up my friggn KICKASS 17" CRT for my parents and I got a headache just installing a few things fo rhtem on that monitor. Hell, it does 100hz @ 1024x768 and I still got headaches.


Once you switch to LCDs, you can't get back.

pkypkypky: If you're talking about the POS Samsung 19" 930B it's too bright for me too, but it's not as bad for me now that I've gotten used to it. It's still not good, but I use my Viewsonic VP191b which is 300x better as it is not as bright. 250 cd/m^2 as opposed to Samsung's 300.

I think my CRT is pretty bright too and it hurts my eyes.

Hell my eyes are hurting at work with this 19" CRT that does pretty good refresh rates.... I wanna go home to my laptop and my 19" LCD

 

[feelingshorter]

going form CRT to LCD made my eyes red for a while..like two weeks..

 

[coomar]

lcd's are bad, i spend too much time in front of the computer now, i remember with crts, my eyes would hurt after a while, a natural deterrent

 

[pkypkypky]

Originally posted by: coomar
lcd's are bad, i spend too much time in front of the computer now, i remember with crts, my eyes would hurt after a while, a natural deterrent

lcds are bad and crts hurt your eyes? You're worse off than me!

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: lemmiwinks
I recently bought a Hyundai L90D+ to replace an old Dell CRT. The size is great but for some reason it hurts my eyes. Is this normal for people who switch from CRT to LCD? Is it just something you get used to? Also, I can seem to find the right brightness/contrast even with the included calibrating program, is there a third party program that someone could recommend? Thx

I have it too, turning the brightness down seemed to mess up colors and made darks too hard to see properly.

However, I eventually got used to my L90D+. BTW, I've noticed the analog connection seems dimmer than DVI.