New Law Makes it Illegal to DANCE at the Jefferson Memorial

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Tom

Lifer
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Dance is behavior. It can be regulated.

Waving a gun around can express something. Doesn't mean that there cannot be laws against brandishing a firearm.

actually dance is protected by the 1st Amendment, even naked dancing. But there other rights too, including the right of citizens to visit public locations with a reasonable expectation of what will go on there.

So a law banning particular dancing could be constitutional.
 

xj0hnx

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Love this quote from the idiot who started all of this:
Kokesh added that the two main jobs of the police are to "raise revenue for the government and control the population."


Someone should break into his house next time he is in Washington and steal all his stuff and then maybe he'll understand why the police really exist.

Surely you aren't suggesting that they exist to stop crime? Because they don't.
 

ProfJohn

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Surely you aren't suggesting that they exist to stop crime? Because they don't.
What do they exist for then?


And yes they do stop crime. They might not be there when a store gets robbed, but imagine how much more crime we would have without cops. Just look at Mexico and you will see what happens without an effective police force.
 

xj0hnx

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What do they exist for then?


And yes they do stop crime. They might not be there when a store gets robbed, but imagine how much more crime we would have without cops. Just look at Mexico and you will see what happens without an effective police force.

As Howard said, enforcing the law, but unless you live in Disney land they aren't stop much crime.
 

Doboji

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And yet the Westboro wackos can do whatever they want... Awesome. This makes me want to puke.
 

ProfJohn

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As Howard said, enforcing the law, but unless you live in Disney land they aren't stop much crime.
So if cops aren't stopping crime then we could get rid of all cops without seeing an increase in crime??
 

ProfJohn

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And yet the Westboro wackos can do whatever they want... Awesome. This makes me want to puke.
Not true, the Westboro wackos can only protest in certain public areas such as the side of streets and such.
 

Doboji

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Not true, the Westboro wackos can only protest in certain public areas such as the side of streets and such.

You can't truly think it's ok to have a law barring dancing? You realize without the law no one would be dancing there. So much for the land of the free... This is absolutely un-American in every way.
 
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Lame court ruling is lame...

The WBC/Phelps cult can ruin a slodier's funeral but you can't dance at the Jefferson Memorial. I'm seriously thinking it's time to leave this country.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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What do they exist for then?


And yes they do stop crime. They might not be there when a store gets robbed, but imagine how much more crime we would have without cops. Just look at Mexico and you will see what happens without an effective police force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

DC's highest court ruled that the police do not have a legal responsibility to provide personal protection to individuals, and absolved the police and the city of any liability.[2
One of the many reasons why every law-abiding American should own a gun.
 

BoberFett

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As art, not behavior.
There's a difference.

Constitutional Fail

Did you miss this part of the 1st Amendment you anime loving moron?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
 

ProfJohn

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Constitutional Fail

Did you miss this part of the 1st Amendment you anime loving moron?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
And it is a LONG establish belief that the government can regulate when and where people can assemble.

Otherwise people would assemble in the Senate Chamber or in the Supreme Court or the White House lawn.

If you read the post by Muggs and the court order you might actually understand how this all happened.

cliffs: ANY type of protesting is not allowed inside the rotunda, dancing has been determined to be a form of protesting and thus is not allowed. And of course the people in the video clearly stated that they were dancing in the rotunda as a form of protest.
 

ProfJohn

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BTW dancing on the steps of the memorial is perfectly legal as would dancing just about any place around the memorial.

The ONLY place you can't dance is inside the rotunda itself because the courts have ruled that the rotunda is a public place but NOT a public forum and thus the government can regulate or ban protesting in that spot.
 

zinfamous

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What do they exist for then?


And yes they do stop crime. They might not be there when a store gets robbed, but imagine how much more crime we would have without cops. Just look at Mexico and you will see what happens without an effective police force.

protect and serve THE LAW. (not THE PEOPLE, as is often misunderstood)

if a crime happens, they will be involved. not before.

it's an important distinction.