New Large Moniter

NightShadeKW

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I'm looking to get a new large moniter (I'm thinking 21"), mainly for gaming. I'm not restricted by space, so I don't really want a LCD. I was looking at some Viewsonic moniters at NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116179, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116228), but I don't really know a whole lot about moniters. One thing I noticed is that none of them had DVI output, which I had thought was better than Analog. I was wondering if anybody has any ideas? Thanks.
 

kitkat22

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DVI is better. DVI is a digital interface designed for LCD's which are digital. CRT's are analog, so you won't find any CRT's that have DVI ports.
 

NightShadeKW

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Cool, thanks. Does anybody have any thoughts on those two viewsonics I posted? Is the more expensive one worth the extra cost?

Thanks again.

Edit: Everywhere I look, it's LCDs. Are they really good for gaming? I thought CRTs were still better, but I can barely find any CRTs anymore. I haven't seen any LCDs that are over 19" that aren't outrageously expensive, and I'd really like a bit more screen size.
 

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The 2005fpw - Is it really good for gaming? and is the widescreen ratio good for gaming too? I haven't noticed many PC games that support that ratio. Also, I don't see it for any cheaper than 480 or so.

AndrewZorn - thanks for the confirmation. Are there any other good 21" CRT moniters besides the ones I mentioned? or are those two pretty good? or do you have any idea?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: cscpianoman
DVI is better. DVI is a digital interface designed for LCD's which are digital. CRT's are analog, so you won't find any CRT's that have DVI ports.

My IBM P260 CRT has a DVI port.

By the way, I recommend getting an IBM P260. They can be had used for $200 online and they are worth three times that.
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: cscpianoman
DVI is better. DVI is a digital interface designed for LCD's which are digital. CRT's are analog, so you won't find any CRT's that have DVI ports.

My IBM P260 CRT has a DVI port.

By the way, I recommend getting an IBM P260. They can be had used for $200 online and they are worth three times that.

I was going to say that. Surplus Computers has them on sale for $99.
 

neutralizer

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Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
The 2005fpw - Is it really good for gaming? and is the widescreen ratio good for gaming too? I haven't noticed many PC games that support that ratio. Also, I don't see it for any cheaper than 480 or so.

AndrewZorn - thanks for the confirmation. Are there any other good 21" CRT moniters besides the ones I mentioned? or are those two pretty good? or do you have any idea?

12 ms response time is pretty good. there are plenty of games that support widescreen and more will adopt as widescreen gets more popular. check hot deals, 2005fpw is at the moment $389 before tax.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
I saw it for sale here: http://www.azatek.com/details.asp?iid=397 for $85, though I have no idea how reliable that place is. Is "Surplus Computers" reliable?

Anyhow, I take it the P260 moniter would work well for gaming purposes?

That's where I got mine.

I use it for gaming and I love it. Just know that it's pretty big and very heavy.

I would get a Grade A monitor if you can. I would feel safer. Mine's an A and I have no complaints.
 

KoolDrew

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Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
There are much more advantages to an LCd other then space saved ;)

like what?

There is a lot less eye train with LCD's because there is no flicker as there is with a CRT. They also use less power. This may not make a huge difference with just one LCD, but it still uses less power. Also less distortion, less heat and radiation.
 

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: cscpianoman
DVI is better. DVI is a digital interface designed for LCD's which are digital. CRT's are analog, so you won't find any CRT's that have DVI ports.

My IBM P260 CRT has a DVI port.

By the way, I recommend getting an IBM P260. They can be had used for $200 online and they are worth three times that.

is that better than this?
http://www.azatek.com/details.asp?iid=603
 

Goi

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I wouldn't take a Grade B refurbed monitor. Even my Grade A came with some knicks and scratches, and I had to return one before I got one that wasn't cracked. With refurbed it's the pick of the draw, so don't take any chances.
 

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Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
Originally posted by: Goi
I wouldn't take a Grade B refurbed monitor. Even my Grade A came with some knicks and scratches, and I had to return one before I got one that wasn't cracked. With refurbed it's the pick of the draw, so don't take any chances.

That's what I was thinking, but this: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=MON10142 doesn't say whether it's grade-A or grade-B.

Does anybody know?
 

Goi

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With a price that low I doubt it's a Grade A. I paid a lot more than that for my Grade A Dell P1130 a year ago.
 

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i got a 2005fpw and mostly game with it. works totally fine. i used to have a viewsonic 19 crt and the lcd kicks its ass
 

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Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
Originally posted by: NightShadeKW
Originally posted by: Goi
I wouldn't take a Grade B refurbed monitor. Even my Grade A came with some knicks and scratches, and I had to return one before I got one that wasn't cracked. With refurbed it's the pick of the draw, so don't take any chances.

That's what I was thinking, but this: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=MON10142 doesn't say whether it's grade-A or grade-B.

Does anybody know?

I know the site was linked to above, but azatek has grade A ones for $199 shipped if you didn't see that already.

If I was getting a new monitor I'd probably go with an NEC 1250+ since I really like my 950+.
 

kitkat22

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So you learn something new everyday. I'm surprised CRT's have DVI, I'm behind the times! Just out of curiousity does the moniter have to convert the signal to analog as well? I know with previous LCD's that had VGA the LCD had an internal converter, but then again I might be wrong on that as well?