New Jobless Claims Down, Wholesale Prices Up

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
New Jobless Claims Down, Wholesale Prices Up

Spin this dems....
The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of laid-off workers seeking jobless benefits fell by 6,000 last week to 336,000, a level that was last seen the week of Jan. 13, 2001, just before Bill Clinton relinquished the White House to George W. Bush.
Inflation is on it's way.

On top of a beleagured Economy, time to get the Depression Thread warmed up again.

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
New Jobless Claims Down, Wholesale Prices Up

Spin this dems....
The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of laid-off workers seeking jobless benefits fell by 6,000 last week to 336,000, a level that was last seen the week of Jan. 13, 2001, just before Bill Clinton relinquished the White House to George W. Bush.
Inflation is on it's way.

MOst of that rise was from fuel cost.....
 

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Well in my part of the country the jobs have been up for a couple of years, Don't see much diff in the wholesale prices here, But what I want to know is when is the interest rate going back up, I will never get rich making $11 ever three months on my life savings,
 
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Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?
 
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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
New Jobless Claims Down, Wholesale Prices Up

Spin this dems....
The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of laid-off workers seeking jobless benefits fell by 6,000 last week to 336,000, a level that was last seen the week of Jan. 13, 2001, just before Bill Clinton relinquished the White House to George W. Bush.
Inflation is on it's way.

MOst of that rise was from fuel cost.....

that's horible as it works it's way into all sectors of the economy
 
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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.
 
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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.

I am suspecting as much as I didn't see anything in the article indicating another reason. It's sure as hell not from job creation. As far as the inflation mentioned, the PPI is a pretty flawed measure anyway, compound that with their 'new classification' and I'm not sure that number means much of anything. But fuel prices increasing will cause inflation across the board because every industry is directly affected by it. And that's a bad thing.
 

dmcowen674

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I attended this Annual Local Job Fair today:

3-18-2004 Greater Hall Chamber of Commerce Business Expo & Job Fair

?The Expo really is a great networking opportunity,? said Robin Overby, vice president of membership. ?Last year we had over 2,500 people attend the Expo and some 1,000 participate in the Job Fair. We are planning for an even bigger crowd this year!?
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It was more crowded alright, probably at least 2,000 crowded in for a handful of openings.

There were only 6 real Private Companies looking for Employees, the other 26 Operations were Government Agencies such as all of the Armed Forces were there, each of the 6 Local Cities, 3 surrounding Counties, all of the Local Law Enforcement etc.

The only other outfits taking applications but no specific jobs available were from 4 different Temp Agencies.

Everyone was saying "What a Joke".
 
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I attended this Annual Local Job Fair today:

3-18-2004 Greater Hall Chamber of Commerce Business Expo & Job Fair

?The Expo really is a great networking opportunity,? said Robin Overby, vice president of membership. ?Last year we had over 2,500 people attend the Expo and some 1,000 participate in the Job Fair. We are planning for an even bigger crowd this year!?
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It was more crowded alright, probably at least 2,000 crowded in for a handful of openings.

There were only 6 real Private Companies looking for Employees, the other 26 Operations were Government Agencies such as all of the Armed Forces were there, each of the 6 Local Cities, 3 surrounding Counties, all of the Local Law Enforcement etc.

The only other outfits taking applications but no specific jobs available were from 4 different Temp Agencies.

Everyone was saying "What a Joke".

this is why we need to drop the minimum wage for low cost-of-living locations.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

This is new first-time jobless benefit claims ;)

CkG
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
New Jobless Claims Down, Wholesale Prices Up

Spin this dems....
The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of laid-off workers seeking jobless benefits fell by 6,000 last week to 336,000, a level that was last seen the week of Jan. 13, 2001, just before Bill Clinton relinquished the White House to George W. Bush.
Inflation is on it's way.

On top of a beleagured Economy, time to get the Depression Thread warmed up again.

I don't know. The University Michigan seems to think the economy will be booming over the next several years, with unemployment below 5% at the beginning of 2006.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.

I guess you are more of an expert than several economists at University of Michigan.
 
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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

This is new first-time jobless benefit claims ;)

CkG

although we do have discouraged workers; it's good to see a very-low layoff rate.

I guess you are more of an expert than several economists at University of Michigan.
inflation does not denote a lack of work.
 

digitalsm

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The U.S. economy is gearing up to add nearly 3 million jobs by the end of next year and unemployment will drop below 5 percent by the start of 2006, a team of University of Michigan (search) economists said Thursday.

"We expect to see a strengthening of the jobs picture, with monthly gains in payroll employment exceeding 100,000 over the next several months and moving up from there through the summer months," Saul Hymans (search), one of the university's leading economic professors, said in a statement.

"Over the next two years, strong output growth and more moderate productivity increases create an improving labor market, with the payroll count finally reaching its previous peak in spring 2005," he said.

The statement was released after Hymans and colleagues Joan Crary and Janet Wolfe issued their annual spring forecast update of the U.S. economy.

In the forecast, they predict employment growth of 900,000 jobs this year and 2 million more in 2005.

They also said the unemployment rate, which has cast a pall over America's economic recovery for the last two years, was seen falling from last year's 6 percent average to 5.4 percent in 2004 and 5.1 percent next year.

By the start of 2006 the jobless rate will be below 5 percent, the university economists predicted.

Their forecast coincided with a report from the Labor Department (search) on Thursday showing that the number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits fell last week to the lowest level since President Bush took office.

The University of Michigan produces a monthly consumer sentiment survey that is closely scrutinized by Wall Street and considered a gauge of the underlying strength of the U.S. economy.


 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.

I don't buy this. If all these people are "discouraged," then they must be dying on the street. I don't know too many people who are rich enough not to work and give up working. So if these people are truely discouraged, then they must have enough money not to care.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.

I don't buy this. If all these people are "discouraged," then they must be dying on the street. I don't know too many people who are rich enough not to work and give up working. So if these people are truely discouraged, then they must have enough money not to care.

The left wants people to believe things that were credible when democrats used them, are now longer credible.

Its like saying the way of measuring unemployment is no longer vaild, even though it was the same way the measured for well a long ass time. Including in 1998 when 1.8million were laid off, and we were IIRC under 5% unemployment still.

Or historically well respected orgs that produce reports, are no longer credible either. Even though its what the buisness world has used for decades, and continues to use as a basis for projections, etc.

It seems if a republican uses something, its not longer credible. I mean Kerry used the economist Bush & Co used to run Kerry's numbers, but somehow that economist IS ONLY CREDIBLE if a democrat uses him.

Im sorry lefties but the world doesn't work that way. The unemployment numbers are accurate, and well The Univ of Michigan projections, are credible too.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: digitalsm

The left wants people to believe things that were credible when democrats used them, are now longer credible.

Its like saying the way of measuring unemployment is no longer vaild, even though it was the same way the measured for well a long ass time. Including in 1998 when 1.8million were laid off, and we were IIRC under 5% unemployment still.

Or historically well respected orgs that produce reports, are no longer credible either. Even though its what the buisness world has used for decades, and continues to use as a basis for projections, etc.

It seems if a republican uses something, its not longer credible. I mean Kerry used the economist Bush & Co used to run Kerry's numbers, but somehow that economist isnt credible anymore, but still credible for what Kerry and other democrats used him for.

My whole problem with this BS of the liberal left is how elitest they are. They think people should reach a certain standard and only go up. If I lost my job and I couldn't find another, I'd do anything to take care of myself and my family and only once I exausted those means, would I turn to the government for help.

In the last two weeks there were more than 200 jobs available. In this area we regularly have an unemployment rate of 10%, but apparently many of those 10% don't want to work, because if that was the case, the want ads would be nearly empty all the time. The fact of the matter is, people are lazy and they think they are better than what they actually may be. They need to stop crying and relying on the government, get a job and get back to where they were. But if you ask Dave & Co, all these people are dying in the streets.

Like I've said over and over, if you are out of work for 6 months+, you much be pretty damn rich to keep on living. I know very few people that can continue on without an income. So life must not be too bad for all those "unemployed" people who are so desperate for work. As long as there are jobs available, no matter how demeaning, I won't feel sorry for the one of them.
 
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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Isn't there a limit on unemployment benefits? Might this just be a result of people who's eligibility for benefits have run out are not re-applying?

discouraged worker effect, it's called; and yes; if any thing that's a bad sign for the economy as the job-pool is smaller.

I don't buy this. If all these people are "discouraged," then they must be dying on the street. I don't know too many people who are rich enough not to work and give up working. So if these people are truely discouraged, then they must have enough money not to care.

Social safety net, that or the spouse may well have a job, or if unmarried may have moved back in with parents.

The unemployment numbers are accurate, and well The Univ of Michigan projections, are credible too.
yes, and probably;

but that still doesn't preclude horrible inflation.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Social safety net, that or the spouse may well have a job, or if unmarried may have moved back in with parents.

As far as I'm concerned, that's called life. Many people outspend their means and choose not to save for a rainy day. If they can't find another 60k job because they were overpaid during the tech boom, then that's their problem. Time to adjust to reality.

When I got divorced I had to move back in with my parents for awhile. You didn't see me complaining or blaming the President. I dusted myself off, got another jobs, worked my butt off and arrived at where I'm at today. Not a big deal to me.
 
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I dusted myself off, got another jobs, worked my butt off and arrived at where I'm at today. Not a big deal to me.
right.. well, ignoring the normative side of things:

it's much better for the economy to have as many people as possible actually out their looking for work. Workers becoming discouraged is bad.

of course it's a good thing if un-employment goes up without their being a loss of jobs.

but we should always compare this with income as compared to inflation.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
but we should always compare this with income as compared to inflation.

What's with the sudden talk of inflation? Inflation has been near zero. Is this another scare tactic or are you just simply stating that if inflation rises, incomes need to rise with it?