New job growth trend declines!!!!

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U.S. job growth remained strong in May, a government report showed Friday, as the number of jobs added came in above Wall Street expectations.

Job growth strong again

May jobs report shows 248,000 new jobs; April number revised higher; jobless rate holds at 5.6%.
June 4, 2004: 8:44 AM EDT



NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - U.S. job growth remained strong in May, a government report showed Friday, as the number of jobs added came in above Wall Street expectations.

The Labor Department report showed 248,000 new jobs in May, compared with the revised 346,000 increase reported in April. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com forecast the May report would show a 225,000-job gain.

The April job gain was revised up from a previous reading of 288,000 new jobs. The March jobs gain was also revised higher to 353,000 from a previous reading of 337,000 additional jobs. That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.

The job increase was broad-based, with only government employment falling in the period. Manufacturing added 32,000 jobs and construction added 37,000. Retailers added 19,000 jobs.

The unemployment rate came in at 5.6 percent, unchanged from April and in-line with the consensus forecast from Briefing.com.

The jobs report was closely watched by investors for a clue about when the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates. The Fed is now expected to raise interest rates at its June 30 meeting, rather than waiting for its August meeting.

Friday's report did little to change thinking -- Treasury prices were little changed following the report as the yield on the 10-year note stayed near 4.71 percent.

I wonder if this makes Chris Pummer more right than he knows...although his excuses are still lame.;) It'll be interesting to see how the media presents this month's numbers.

Oh yeah, and the title is sarcastic for those who didn't figure that out;)

CkG
 

Red Dawn

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Bush had nothing to do with the Recession, what makes you think he had something to do with the new jobs?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bush had nothing to do with the Recession, what makes you think he had something to do with the new jobs?

I didn't metion Bush.

CkG

LOL no you didn't. I guess you agree with me that the President usually has little or nothing to do with the ups and downs of the economy. Of course when things are going bad his opponents will blame him and when things are doing better his supporters will give him credit for it.
 
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This is great news.

I must admit that I managed to make it through undergrad and grad school without taking any economics, so I have a hard time processing this kind of news. It strikes me there are so many different economic indicators, which operate independently or even contrarily to one another, that it's like squeezing a balloon - you push it down in one place and it pops up in another. It certainly appears that the jobs situation is improving, which is fantastic.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bush had nothing to do with the Recession, what makes you think he had something to do with the new jobs?

I didn't metion Bush.

CkG

LOL no you didn't. I guess you agree with me that the President usually has little or nothing to do with the ups and downs of the economy. Of course when things are going bad his opponents will blame him and when things are doing better his supporters will give him credit for it.

That may be the case:) However what I am pointing out that the economy is doing just fine inspite of the attempts by some to talk it down or poo-poo all the good news. This news has been there for months and months - only now people are starting to wake up to it. 4 straight months of positive Manufacturing growth? "But but but"....i thought all our jobs were going overseas? "But but but it's just gov't hiring"....oops - guess not -"with only government employment falling in the period". "It's just McJobs" - manufacturing and construction are "McJobs"? 19K were potential "McJobs" if you think that's all "retail" is.

Sorry RedDawn not all of that was directed at you - just needed to rant a tad.:)

CkG
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: X-Man
How many jobs total have been added since the upswing?

Third paragraph:

That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: X-Man
How many jobs total have been added since the upswing?

Third paragraph:

That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.

Cool! I know my company needs the help around here, I hope they get off their asses soon and bring some people in . . .

(Note for Mr. McCowen - no, these aren't burger-flipping jobs. These are good-paying IT jobs with great bennies. Just so you know. ;))
 

alchemize

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How about this title CAD:

Job-growth to spiral economy out of control!
Neocons and their monopoly money will prevail but poor slobs like me will lose everything
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: X-Man
How many jobs total have been added since the upswing?

Third paragraph:

That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.

Cool! I know my company needs the help around here, I hope they get off their asses soon and bring some people in . . .

(Note for Mr. McCowen - no, these aren't burger-flipping jobs. These are good-paying IT jobs with great bennies. Just so you know. ;))
Any corporation looking to add IT positions will likely place 2/3-3/4 of them somewhere other than in the US . . . to avoid paying a lot or giving good bennies.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: X-Man
How many jobs total have been added since the upswing?

Third paragraph:

That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.

Cool! I know my company needs the help around here, I hope they get off their asses soon and bring some people in . . .

(Note for Mr. McCowen - no, these aren't burger-flipping jobs. These are good-paying IT jobs with great bennies. Just so you know. ;))
Any corporation looking to add IT positions will likely place 2/3-3/4 of them somewhere other than in the US . . . to avoid paying a lot or giving good bennies.

You've learned this in your extensive IT management experience?
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bush had nothing to do with the Recession, what makes you think he had something to do with the new jobs?

HAHAHAHAHA LOL

I remember, probably 8 months ago or so, calling this one. When the economy recovered, the anti-Bush crowd would claim that Bush has nothing to do with the economy. Back when things were going bad, they claimed that it was all Bush's fault, now they backpeddle ;)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bush had nothing to do with the Recession, what makes you think he had something to do with the new jobs?

I didn't metion Bush.

CkG

LOL no you didn't. I guess you agree with me that the President usually has little or nothing to do with the ups and downs of the economy. Of course when things are going bad his opponents will blame him and when things are doing better his supporters will give him credit for it.

Give credit where credit is due. Alan Greenspan.

We now have 4-6 years before the baby boomers start retiring in droves. Sure would be nice to have a nice sustained expansion to that point, then we during the next contraction it isn't as painful because of attrition.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: X-Man
How many jobs total have been added since the upswing?

Third paragraph:

That puts the three-month job increase at 947,000, the best gain since 1.03 million jobs were added during the same three months of 2000.

Cool! I know my company needs the help around here, I hope they get off their asses soon and bring some people in . . .

(Note for Mr. McCowen - no, these aren't burger-flipping jobs. These are good-paying IT jobs with great bennies. Just so you know. ;))
Any corporation looking to add IT positions will likely place 2/3-3/4 of them somewhere other than in the US . . . to avoid paying a lot or giving good bennies.

Thankfully BBD it's nigh impossible to outsource onsight service.
 

Stunt

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It's all well and good that jobs are being created...but...

jobs
This link shows that yes there is a job growth of 300K per month...which you are outlining now...
But if you look at the number of unemployed it is relatively constant.
And the unemployment claims are getting lower even though the rate is not. Now that means either the system is getting more efficient or they are giving people the boot of welfare.

One thing you MUST remember is that throughout the time period where there was NEGATIVE job growth: (2001 till the end of 2003) there was STILL population growth in the US.
So as the job rate is reaching 2000 levels, there are a net of 3million people per year entering the US. They need jobs too.

So you really have to wonder how much better the economy is doing if the job rate is only at 2000 levels and there are 4% more people (12million)
Nice to see a positive growth though...LOOOOONG way to go though.
BTW, i do realize that our country is having the same effects...just pointing out what most ppl might not notice.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That may be the case:) However what I am pointing out that the economy is doing just fine inspite of the attempts by some to talk it down or poo-poo all the good news. This news has been there for months and months - only now people are starting to wake up to it. 4 straight months of positive Manufacturing growth? "But but but"....i thought all our jobs were going overseas? "But but but it's just gov't hiring"....oops - guess not -"with only government employment falling in the period". "It's just McJobs" - manufacturing and construction are "McJobs"? 19K were potential "McJobs" if you think that's all "retail" is.

Sorry RedDawn not all of that was directed at you - just needed to rant a tad.:)

CkG
You conservative types who don't like to hear bad news, should start your own network: FoxGNTV. Fox Good News TV 24/7/365. Nothing but candy canes, fluffy clouds, puppy dog tails and super happy fun Iraqi good stuff! Lots of six figure jobs for EVERYONE! Life is beautiful. Buy more stuff! God bless America!
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
That may be the case:) However what I am pointing out that the economy is doing just fine inspite of the attempts by some to talk it down or poo-poo all the good news. This news has been there for months and months - only now people are starting to wake up to it. 4 straight months of positive Manufacturing growth? "But but but"....i thought all our jobs were going overseas? "But but but it's just gov't hiring"....oops - guess not -"with only government employment falling in the period". "It's just McJobs" - manufacturing and construction are "McJobs"? 19K were potential "McJobs" if you think that's all "retail" is.

Sorry RedDawn not all of that was directed at you - just needed to rant a tad.:)

CkG
You conservative types who don't like to hear bad news, should start your own network: FoxGNTV. Fox Good News TV 24/7/365. Nothing but candy canes, fluffy clouds, puppy dog tails and super happy fun Iraqi good stuff! Lots of six figure jobs for EVERYONE! Life is beautiful. Buy more stuff! God bless America!

No, I accept the "bad" - I just won't and don't accept news that is intentionally spun in a bad light as has been done concerning the economy. Yes, I'm a half-full type of guy and I understand that many here look at things as half-empty - but only seeing the doom and gloom is just as asinine as what you posted about fluffy clouds and puppy dog tails.

Anyway, I found this a bit interesting:
While I certainly welcome any positive economic news, I'd really like to see a few more quarters like this one before I raise the "huzzah" and start high-fiving everyone around me. Unemployment dropping from 6.0 to 5.9 is a start, but a slow start. - Posted 12/05/2003 12:14 PM


CkG
 

heartsurgeon

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if you notice kerry is no longer beating the "jobs"drum...

he knows there is nothing to complain about..
 

Stunt

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CAD: u have any reponses to my point above?
i think it is an important dynamic...
 

DealMonkey

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Yes Cad, I'm indeed glad to see the economy (and especially the job situation) improving. I'm sure the evil dems will still figure out a way to harp on the economy. They pretty much have to. ;)
 

Bowmaster

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Anyway, I found this a bit interesting:
quote:
While I certainly welcome any positive economic news, I'd really like to see a few more quarters like this one before I raise the "huzzah" and start high-fiving everyone around me. Unemployment dropping from 6.0 to 5.9 is a start, but a slow start. - Posted 12/05/2003 12:14 PM

Good news for a change. As you posted, let's hope this can be sustained. No one - Rep or Dem - likes to see rampant unemployment.