New Jersey's Growth lags behind, and is down graded Gov misses 807 mill budget gap

[werepossum]

Their taxes could be an issue, however New York is significantly outperforming NJ and taxes are even higher here.

My guess is that his ability to fix the pension issues will be pretty small at this point. He has effectively reneged on his half of the original pension bargain, which probably means the legislature isn't going to be too excited about cutting a new one. It sounds like New Jersey has been terribly mismanaged for quite a long time now, my guess is that someone's going to have to bite the bullet at some point and try to get the pension funding put back together.

New York has something New Jersey does not have - Wall Street. New York also has real estate considered more desirable (depending on one's business) than any real estate in the nation, the only real equivalents perhaps being California's Silicone Valley (which is eroding but still worth a premium) and Hollywood. I don't believe (although I may be wrong) that New Jersey has anything similar that would convince companies to pay a large premium to be in that particular spot.

Going to the GOP for fiscal responsibility is like going to Christie for weight loss tips.

lol +1

Although I think Christie just got a lap band, so that joke may be dated. He looks to me like he's slowly deflating, but that may just be BridgeGate taking some steam out of him.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Going to the GOP for fiscal responsibility is like going to Christie for weight loss tips.

That's quite an unexpected compliment of the GOP coming from you. He lost about 85 pounds. And all this time I thought you were a pathetic moronic hack...imagine that! Just goes to show how wrong I can be!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/chris-christie-weight-loss-85-pounds-experts-107315.html

 

[Newell Steamer]

That's quite an unexpected compliment of the GOP coming from you. He lost about 85 pounds. And all this time I thought you were a pathetic moronic hack...imagine that! Just goes to show how wrong I can be!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/chris-christie-weight-loss-85-pounds-experts-107315.html

He needed a medical procedure to curb his demented eating habits; http://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ie-cheered-weight-loss-surgery-success-n33191

So, after extreme measures; he is still a fat piece of shit. Or, more importantly, he needed medicine, science and gastric bands to improve his disgusting pathetic awful fat life.

If I want to learn fiscal responsibility, I would not go to someone who has his pay docked by courts to force that on him - much like Christie has his fatness "controlled" by gutting his blubber open and wrangling it in.

 

[TheSiege]

Stop trying to mislead us, the title is wrong, its only 807m not 807b

 

[Victorian Gray]

That's quite an unexpected compliment of the GOP coming from you. He lost about 85 pounds. And all this time I thought you were a pathetic moronic hack...imagine that! Just goes to show how wrong I can be!

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/chris-christie-weight-loss-85-pounds-experts-107315.html

He had to have surgery to make his stomach smaller because he didn't have enough self discipline to stop eating so much. And he did this solely because he wants to run for president and figured a 'fat guy' wouldn't make the cut.

Yep, that's the kind of leader one can really get behind in a big way.

 

[werepossum]

He had to have surgery to make his stomach smaller because he didn't have enough self discipline to stop eating so much. And he did this solely because he wants to run for president and figured a 'fat guy' wouldn't make the cut.

Yep, that's the kind of leader one can really get behind in a big way.

Yep, elect someone like that and first thing you know we'd be electing someone without enough self discipline to stop smoking. Then where would we be?

 

[werepossum]

Stop trying to mislead us, the title is wrong, its only 807m not 807b

lol The quality of good news seems to be severely declining these days.

 

[rudder]

Going to the GOP for fiscal responsibility is like going to Christie for weight loss tips.

Well actually he may have some solid advice on what foods to avoid. I am sure he knows good and well what made him so fat.

Kind of like asking obama about fiscal responsibility. After all he knows good and well how that new $6 trillion in debt since he took office has been spent.

You can learn a lot from people who have failed (that includes poster failures who will try to use that sentence in a funny).

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yep, elect someone like that and first thing you know we'd be electing someone without enough self discipline to stop smoking. Then where would we be?

So don't talk about Christie's issues because someone else you happen to not like has self control issues? We can't simply talk about Christie in terms of his own issues?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yep, elect someone like that and first thing you know we'd be electing someone without enough self discipline to stop smoking. Then where would we be?

We'd be going to hell in a handbag...that's where we would be! :biggrin:

 

[ivwshane]

Lower sales tax, keep property taxes the same, raise taxes on the wealthy and thriving businesses.

That's the usual recipe that works but as others said, I haven't seen what NJ is currently doing.

 

[Matt1970]

Overall, NY is #1 and NJ is #2 on this list using current data.

http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/04/02/states-with-the-highest-and-lowest-taxes/3/

But I thought high taxes improve an economy.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Is the Governor above the law now?

Well if the President is...

 

[Oldgamer]

Stop trying to mislead us, the title is wrong, its only 807m not 807b

Sorry typo, not misleading just typo.. will correct now.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Well actually he may have some solid advice on what foods to avoid. I am sure he knows good and well what made him so fat.

Kind of like asking obama about fiscal responsibility. After all he knows good and well how that new $6 trillion in debt since he took office has been spent.

You can learn a lot from people who have failed (that includes poster failures who will try to use that sentence in a funny).

If I was to follow this fat fuck's advice on fiscal responsibility, as I would follow his advice on weight loss; I would have a pad lock on my wallet - much like he has a band on the sarlac pit he claims is his stomach.

 

[glenn1]

If I was to follow this fat fuck's advice on fiscal responsibility, as I would follow his advice on weight loss; I would have a pad lock on my wallet - much like he has a band on the sarlac pit he claims is his stomach.

Calling Christie "fat" didn't work when Jon Corzine ran against him and lost. Guess NJ voters would rather have a fat guy give them fiscal responsibility advice than someone who criminally used other people's money to cover his shortfalls and lost his clients 100s of millions of dollars. Obama sure did come down hard on that "fat cat" of Wall Street didn't he.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Calling Christie "fat" didn't work when Jon Corzine ran against him and lost. Guess NJ voters would rather have a fat guy give them fiscal responsibility advice than someone who criminally used other people's money to cover his shortfalls and lost his clients 100s of millions of dollars. Obama sure did come down hard on that "fat cat" of Wall Street didn't he.

Read the OP, you buffoon; Christi is short 807 million dollars.

So, just like I would NOT seek weight loss tips from this blundering blubber butt, I would NOT seek fiscal responsibility tips from him.

He isn't someone you would go to for ANY advice, when matters of weight loss and fiscal responsibility are in question. Do you understand that, you defective blaring alarm??

 

[glenn1]

Read the OP, you buffoon; Christi is short 807 million dollars.

So, just like I would NOT seek weight loss tips from this blundering blubber butt, I would NOT seek fiscal responsibility tips from him.

He isn't someone you would go to for ANY advice, when matters of weight loss and fiscal responsibility are in question. Do you understand that, you defective blaring alarm??

You might want to take yoga classes or something to calm down before you give yourself a stroke. It's not healthy being such an angry obnoxious jerk.

 

[Newell Steamer]

You might want to take yoga classes or something to calm down before you give yourself a stroke. It's not healthy being such an angry obnoxious jerk.

Follow your own advice before you offer it to anyone else, you misanthropic creep.

 

[TheSiege]

Sorry typo, not misleading just typo.. will correct now.

I know, I just wanted to be a cynic. I never thought it was intentional

 

[werepossum]

So don't talk about Christie's issues because someone else you happen to not like has self control issues? We can't simply talk about Christie in terms of his own issues?

It's a free country, er, Internet, so sure you can talk about him. Just as we can point out the hypocrisy in idolizing one man without the willpower to stop smoking while excoriating another man for lacking the willpower to stop overeating.

We'd be going to hell in a handbag...that's where we would be! :biggrin:

lol Yep - although I think Obama contributed relatively little of the shit sandwich we're currently having for dinner.

 

[werepossum]

I know, I just wanted to be a cynic. I never thought it was intentional

That's always a worthy goal on the Internet.

(And no, that isn't sarcasm - although that is a service I provide.)

 

[Mai72]

We just had a Police Chief who retired this year. His pay was $220,000 a year. He's getting a check for $440,000 in unused sick days! This is obscene.

I don't like Christie but he has a point. How are we going to pay for these entitlements? Either the people revolt or the system collapses. People are angry, but they need to realize that the money isn't there. Where are we going to get the money? Taxes? My brother pays nearly $7k a year in property taxes. His house is only worth $300k.

 

[chucky2]

We just had a Police Chief who retired this year. His pay was $220,000 a year. He's getting a check for $440,000 in unused sick days! This is obscene.

I don't like Christie but he has a point. How are we going to pay for these entitlements? Either the people revolt or the system collapses. People are angry, but they need to realize that the money isn't there. Where are we going to get the money? Taxes? My brother pays nearly $7k a year in property taxes. His house is only worth $300k.

Here in Republican Crook Co. IL we could only be so lucky! $7k a year in property taxes, house worth whatever you might be able to sell it for - possibly what was paid in early 80's ($77k in this instance). Look how good your bro has it!