Americans dont want price transparency, they want dirt cheap shit with someone else paying the bill.You get this shit in markets without pricing transparency. Price transparency, while not a silver bullet, is a key solution to the health care issues in America. Google the Surgery Center of Oklahoma to see what the future could be.
You could apply that to everything. More and more people have HSAs and shop around for surgery. It can also be way cheaper for employers to contract with one of these insurance free surgery centers instead of dealing with insurance companies. Plus, physicians like yourself spend more time working and less time fighting insurance companies. Seems like a win for everyone except the established players.Americans dont want price transparency, they want dirt cheap shit with someone else paying the bill.
Supply and demand. Simple economics. He may be a price gouging asshole taking advantage of a situation, but it is a wise business practice based on the simple economic principle of supply and demand.Are supplies not worth more money when supply chains are interrupted? That's not price gouging, if you have someplace else to get those things for less money, then by all means buy them there instead.
Oh, they're not available elsewhere? Then it's not price gouging.
Markets are dysfunctional and broken in health care to benefit a few. So no, it's not just simple supply and demand.Supply and demand. Simple economics. He may be a price gouging asshole taking advantage of a situation, but it is a wise business practice based on the simple economic principle of supply and demand.
While this guy appeared to be kind of dumb, I'd bet the ER made it appear to be an injury that required immediate attention. Should price gouging be accepted for perceived emergencies? How about the person with heart failure a real emergency based on this transaction it could be over a million dollars. Would this still be supply & demand? Its the only hospital that can be reached and demand is immediate or death.Supply and demand. Simple economics. He may be a price gouging asshole taking advantage of a situation, but it is a wise business practice based on the simple economic principle of supply and demand.
Our government is already spending more and giving us lessI only hope our government doesn't do the healthcare what it has done to education.
That's not because the government pays too much, but because medical supplies and procedures have ridiculous prices. We've brought profit where there should be none.Our government is already spending more and giving us less
I don't even want a fully socialized system like the UK or Canada. I think Germany has a great system. Japan's system is pretty good too, but I don't see our government willing to set prices so strictly like the Japanese do.
Anyone who seriously believes that medical care is the same as car care is suffering from one of the following two issues:It's only a key difference if you make it that. Business is business. You're putting medical care compensation on a pedestal it needs not be on. If you want to go to the ER for a bandaid, go for it. You must be prepared to pay for it. If your insurance is inadequate that is your own fault, boo hoo. Who do you want to pick up the bill? The hospital, great lets drive them out of business. The government, they'll just make us pay for it. The tax payers, see government. It's called self responsibility. If you are so irresponsible that you went to the ER with inadequate medical insurance, there is a stupid tax you need to pay.
Whos fault but his own is it he went to the ER? Nobodies, pay the bill and shut the fuck up.
It's got nothing to do with self-responsibility and the moment anyone uses that phrase it's a good indication that what they're about to say is a load of nonsense.Again, self responsibility. Dude was obviously intelligent enough to know that his life was not in danger due to massive blood loss. He went to urgent care and let them determine what needed to be done. They treated and released him. This is how the world works. Think. Use common sense. It's not as difficult as you are making it.
With Surplus in Hand, California Eyes DebtWhen are they going to make their massive deficit illegal. :awe:
Tons of hippies?With Surplus in Hand, California Eyes Debt
Any other talking points you got?
Are you still talking about this? Shit, way to prove me right, again. Been awhile since I've seen anyone this committed to maintaining their ignorant assumptions, I see you still having nothing to stand on here. Just going to keep pretending you have enough of a clue to judge what you have no real knowledge of, eh? What a sad comment on your personality, I bet you are just a hoot at parties.It's got nothing to do with self-responsibility and the moment anyone uses that phrase it's a good indication that what they're about to say is a load of nonsense.
And thus you've proven.
There is nothing intelligent about refusing to go to ER when you've had half of your hand crushed.
Agreed!Actually in most civilized states, such as California such ER billing is ILLEGAL. Time for more states to make this practice illegal.