New Israeli law

[davmat787]

Let's just agree that those people who hate Israel hate this law, and those who do not hate Israel do not hate this law.

Okay?

Great, now that we have that out of the way, 99% off the comments that would be posted in this thread can be spared.

Which pretty much sums up any debate when it comes to Israel, good point.

 

[Lanyap]

Let's just agree that the left hates Israel , and the right does not hate Israel.

Okay?

Great, now that we have that out of the way, 99% off the comments that would be posted in this thread can be spared.

/FTFY

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

The word "apartheid" is a deliberate comparison with apartheid South Africa. If you are going to make such a comparison, please do so by demonstrating a knowledge of both, then employing logic to do a proper comparison/contrast. Otherwise, your use of the word "apartheid" is just an empty, rhetorical pejorative.

So far as your comments about the state of democracy in Israel, I suspect you have no idea of what you're talking about. Thus far, you have displayed no such knowledge, and I'll continue to assume that to be the case unless or until you demonstrate otherwise.

You're right, the apartheid regime didn't oppress people as much, didn't continuously steal their land and deprive them of basic human needs like food, clean water and medical supplies. At least not as much as Israel does. Not even the Iraqi Ba'ath party did that for that matter. But we all know you'd defend Israel even if they'd sink another US battleship on purpose.

 

[WelshBloke]

If you Lemon Law are not a child molester, then you should assert your case, and logically prove it.

Does Lemon Law have a bunch of children enclosed in his backyard and controls their movement and what can be given to them?

 

[Atreus21]

The word "apartheid" is a deliberate comparison with apartheid South Africa. If you are going to make such a comparison, please do so by demonstrating a knowledge of both, then employing logic to do a proper comparison/contrast. Otherwise, your use of the word "apartheid" is just an empty, rhetorical pejorative.

So far as your comments about the state of democracy in Israel, I suspect you have no idea of what you're talking about. Thus far, you have displayed no such knowledge, and I'll continue to assume that to be the case unless or until you demonstrate otherwise.

Woolfe9999, you are smarter than I am.

 

[Macamus Prime]

The word "apartheid" is a deliberate comparison with apartheid South Africa. If you are going to make such a comparison, please do so by demonstrating a knowledge of both, then employing logic to do a proper comparison/contrast. Otherwise, your use of the word "apartheid" is just an empty, rhetorical pejorative.

So far as your comments about the state of democracy in Israel, I suspect you have no idea of what you're talking about. Thus far, you have displayed no such knowledge, and I'll continue to assume that to be the case unless or until you demonstrate otherwise.

Correct.

There is no justification to compare Israel to South Africa; because South Africa treated the "lesser" inhabitants in a much more humane manner than Israel is treating the Arabs, Americans and anyone else that "opposes" Israel.

Oh, and South Africa did not scream, yell and complain about the nuclear capabilities of its neighbors - only to secretly build and develop nuclear weapons for the past 30 years.

And, as Skyclad1uhm1 pointed out, I don't remember South Africa firing on and killing ally memebers.

 

[Broheim]

Does Lemon Law have a bunch of children enclosed in his backyard and controls their movement and what can be given to them?

don't all parents?

 

[Doboji]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14111925
Despite Israel's aggression towards its neighbors, even I can admit that Israel is a resounding success in the region, especially in the spheres of democracy and freedom of speech.

Laws like this which impinge the country's own citizens is expected from Arab monarchies or other dictatorships. I did not expect this to come from Israel.

I don't see this standing up in the high court... ridiculous law, and absolutely counter to Israeli law..

 

[Doboji]

Correct.

There is no justification to compare Israel to South Africa; because South Africa treated the "lesser" inhabitants in a much more humane manner than Israel is treating the Arabs, Americans and anyone else that "opposes" Israel.

Oh, and South Africa did not scream, yell and complain about the nuclear capabilities of its neighbors - only to secretly build and develop nuclear weapons for the past 30 years.

And, as Skyclad1uhm1 pointed out, I don't remember South Africa firing on and killing ally memebers.

You are a fucking moron. Apartheid in South Africa was about grouping people based on race. Since the majority of the Jewish population of Israel is of Arab descent it's pretty much ridiculous to play the Apartheid card.

I will counter your ridiculous rhetoric by calling Palestinians Nazis. Which is equally baseless and stupid, but effective in the same way.

The general rule is just lie over and over and over again, and eventually people will get confused.

I'd be very interested in hearing a comparison of the "humane" treatment of Arab citizens in Israel in comparison to the treatment of citizens in South Africa under apartheid... of course I seriously doubt you have the balls to actually look into it. You're far more comfortable in your ridiculous lie.

 

[Anarchist420]

The evidence points to Israel having elements of an apartheid state (not to the level South Africa was, but it's still discriminatory) and I heard that there was an Israeli politicians who wanted to ship all the blacks there to Australia (not sure if that's true though). However, it doesn't bother me because I'm an angry American white man and I don't see why any other American should care either.

 

[QuantumPion]

WTF does this have to do with apartheid or freedom of speech? From what I can tell (the BBC article is pretty poor on details), the law merely states that business that are harmed by a boycott can sue the boycotters for damages.

 

[Broheim]

WTF does this have to do with apartheid or freedom of speech? From what I can tell (the BBC article is pretty poor on details), the law merely states that business that are harmed by a boycott can sue the boycotters for damages.

this is P&N, everything Isreal does is a direct attack on the noble and selfless palestinians...

 

[BeauJangles]

But we all know you'd defend Israel even if they'd sink another US battleship on purpose.

The Liberty was a victory ship, refitted as a technical observation ship, not a battleship. Like the rest of your post though, you pass off opinion as fact, conflate your own beliefs with reality, and demonstrate no substantive understanding of what you're talking about besides the ability to throw around meaningless analogies.

 

[Doboji]

The evidence points to Israel having elements of an apartheid state (not to the level South Africa was, but it's still discriminatory) and I heard that there was an Israeli politicians who wanted to ship all the blacks there to Australia (not sure if that's true though). However, it doesn't bother me because I'm an angry American white man and I don't see why any other American should care either.

EVERY state has "elements" of discrimination... name one that doesn't.

 

[Karl Agathon]

this is P&N, everything Isreal does is a direct attack on the noble and selfless palestinians...

:thumbsup:

 

[iGas]

WTF does this have to do with apartheid or freedom of speech? From what I can tell (the BBC article is pretty poor on details), the law merely states that business that are harmed by a boycott can sue the boycotters for damages.

Anyone that disagree with Israels draconian policies is automatically labeled as antisemitic by the residential right wing secular Jews.

Israel's crackdown grows with boycott bill

In Israel, it might very well be that the Boycott Bill, which the Knesset approved by a vote of 47 to 38, will also be remembered as a historic landmark.

Ironically, the bill itself is likely to be inconsequential. It stipulates that any person who initiates, promotes or publishes material that might serve as grounds for imposing a boycott on Israel or the Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem is committing an offence. If found "guilty" of such an offence, that person may be ordered to compensate parties economically affected by the boycott, including reparations of 30,000 Israeli shekels ($8,700) without an obligation on the part of the plaintiffs to prove damages.

The bill's objective is to defend Israel's settlement project and other policies that contravene international human rights law against non-violent mobilisation aimed at putting an end to these policies.

The Knesset's legal advisor, Eyal Yinon, said that the bill "damages the core of Israel's freedom of political expression" and that it would be difficult for him to defend the law in the High Court of Justice since it contradicts Israel's basic law of "Human Dignity and Liberty". Given Yinon's statement, and the fact that Israeli rights organisations have already filed a petition to the High Court arguing that the bill is anti democratic, there is a good chance that the Boycott Bill's life will be extremely short.

And yet this law should still be considered as a turning point. Not because of what the bill does, but because of what it represents...