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Sorry, just thought this would get a chuckle here whether it turns out to be true or not. :)
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It does get a chuckle but Apple gets the last laugh.I do believe the chart comparison between Tegra3 & A5 to be ~accurate.

I wish Apple made an Android phone.
 
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Yeah, it'll probably be 4x faster in the GLBenchmark, but practically it won't be that anywhere near that superior compared to other SoCs. It would be nice if Apple actually gave review units to a site like Anandtech so that there would be an in-depth review ready on launch day so we'd know exactly how the performance stacks up in real world scenarios.
 
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Rick James Astley said:
It does get a chuckle but Apple gets the last laugh.I do believe the chart comparison between Tegra3 & A5 to be ~accurate.

I wish Apple made an Android phone.
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Well, Anandtech's benchmarks show Apple's A5 to be better overall than Tegra 3. And from a GPU perspective the A5X is suppose to be much better. So the nVidia Tegra 3 charts I linked to, which came directly from nVidia were cherry picked and nowhere near accurate for real world performance.
 
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Mopetar said:
Yeah, it'll probably be 4x faster in the GLBenchmark, but practically it won't be that anywhere near that superior compared to other SoCs.
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How come? The platform is more efficient than any other competitor to begin with. A5 has yet to be beaten, let alone A5X. When the ipad3 hits the market, how many other products will actually be on the market that feature a next gen/better CPU? Or a next gen/better GPU?
 
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Rick James Astley said:
How come? The platform is more efficient than any other competitor to begin with. A5 has yet to be beaten, let alone A5X. When the ipad3 hits the market, how many other products will actually be on the market that feature a next gen/better CPU? Or a next gen/better GPU?
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I say practically because a lot of that extra horse power will be necessary just to drive the higher resolution display. Also, synthetic benchmarks don't always translate into real world performance and in many cases additional GPU power doesn't amount to anything.

What I'm most interested in seeing are the webpage load speed tests and other tests that Anand usually includes in tablet reviews. If we know the clock speed of the A5X, we can probably deduce how much of a performance bump iOS can get from GPU acceleration, assuming it hasn't already topped out in that regard.

The A5X is definitely interesting, but as I mentioned in another thread, the A6 is really what interests me, as the A5X is not really suitable for the next iPhone. I'm assuming from the name that the A5X is still using Cortex A9 ARM cores, but depending on when Apple releases the next iPhone, the A6 may very well be a Cortex A15 design and use newer PowerVR graphics. It's even possible that Apple's SoC design has been inverted, such that the iPhone will see the newer chip design, and the iPad will get the X version of the SoC that adds additional graphics.
 
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If Apple could have used an A15, they would have, but I think it wouldn't have made the March Launch. Right now Apple is releasing a high res tablet and a gpu to support that resolution before anyone else. It'll be a while until we see this in Android tablets.
 
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Honestly at this point. I think GPU driven UI is more important than CPU. They made a GPU that can deliver good results at that huge rez and left the CPU portion alone.
 
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No joking in MD&G forum, we all serious up in here, the bad neighborhood of AT forums, no joking around here, we shoot on sight. Even the mods don't dare hang out here, they just drive by once in a while, never without bullet proof ride and gear. We be hating/shooting even on friendlies in here.
 
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Since Tegra 3 is as powerful as a Core 2 Duo, that means A5X is equal to a Core 2 Quad. Amazing!!
 
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smartpatrol said:
Since Tegra 3 is as powerful as a Core 2 Duo, that means A5X is equal to a Core 2 Quad. Amazing!!
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Oops talk about math fail. If A5X is 4x as powerful as Tegra 3, that means it's as powerful as a hypothetical Core 2 Ocho. Now that is what I call incredible.
 
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smartpatrol said:
Since Tegra 3 is as powerful as a Core 2 Duo, that means A5X is equal to a Core 2 Quad. Amazing!!
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smartpatrol said:
Oops talk about math fail. If A5X is 4x as powerful as Tegra 3, that means it's as powerful as a hypothetical Core 2 Ocho. Now that is what I call incredible.
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Still not right considering we know nothing about the ARM cores in the A5X other than that it has fewer than the T3 and are probably Cortex A9.
 
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Mopetar said:
Still not right considering we know nothing about the ARM cores in the A5X other than that it has fewer than the T3 and are probably Cortex A9.
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Come on, this is a humor thread. I thought it would be funny to multiply Nvidia's bogus numbers with Apple's hyperbolic numbers.
 
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smartpatrol said:
Come on, this is a humor thread. I thought it would be funny to multiply Nvidia's bogus numbers with Apple's hyperbolic numbers.
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Try adding a ;) or a :p, otherwise it's impossible to tell if you're trying to be funny or just really, really stupid. This place isn't exactly YouTube, but it is the internet, and there tends to be a lot of people in that later category.

:p <--- See, humor alert.
 
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Mopetar said:
Yeah, it'll probably be 4x faster in the GLBenchmark, but practically it won't be that anywhere near that superior compared to other SoCs. It would be nice if Apple actually gave review units to a site like Anandtech so that there would be an in-depth review ready on launch day so we'd know exactly how the performance stacks up in real world scenarios.
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I'd love for Apple to send review units out at least after it's been announced! So in a week or so we can have a review, and a basic one in a few days even maybe...

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As has been said, they're definitely cherry picking results. In a more shader bound test, the SGX543MP2 only comes out on top by about 30%. So, the SGX543MP4 would be about 2.5x more powerful than the Tegra 3 in that regard.

The SGX543MP2 is already quite a load of power -- it's capable of driving Real Racing 2 at 1080p with 30 FPS (albeit without AA unlike at 768p on the iPad 2), so with another two of them it should do quite well at 1536p. (Pardon the pun...)

EDIT: It's also possible they're referring to fill rate, as the SGX543MP2 has double that of the Tegra 3.
 
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