New Intel Roadmap! HT tech for 45 nm confirmed?

[Chocolate Pi]

http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inteldesktoproadmapif0.png

Looks like earlier rumors are true, but can anyone explain to me how there can Hyper threading without extra threads being added to each core? We must be talking about some sort of thread management technology rather than traditional netburst-style SMT...

 

[StopSign]

Nice picture.

 

[Chocolate Pi]

Sorry about the bad link, should be fixed now.

 

[zephyrprime]

That picture confirms that there will be no HT in Wolfdale. Notice that is says "4/4" and "2/2" cores and threads. If there were HT, it would say "4/8" or even "4/12".

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That picture confirms that there will be no HT in Wolfdale. Notice that is says "4/4" and "2/2" cores and threads. If there were HT, it would say "4/8" or even "4/12".

That is incorrect according to this story.

EDIT - original DT article has now been changed. Disregard this post.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: SexyK

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That picture confirms that there will be no HT in Wolfdale. Notice that is says "4/4" and "2/2" cores and threads. If there were HT, it would say "4/8" or even "4/12".

That is incorrect according to this story.

Perhaps the most interesting thing about these two processors is the return of Hyper-Threading. This, however, does not mean that Yorkfield will appear as eight logical cores, nor does it mean Wolfdale will appear as four logical cores. Intel's internal guidance on the subject specifically claims the processor will ship with Hyper-Threading, but will only utilize 4 threads. On every Intel roadmap in the past, Hyper-Threading doubles the amount of listed threads in the guidance documentation. Clearly, there is more of a mystery here still.

Sorry but you are incorrect. that aurthor made a correction...look at bottom...It links to this response...

With regard to Hyper-Threading: A slide to the roadmap supplied to DailyTech, available here, is one of the documents we used to verify the information in question.

However, I received a call today from someone running damage control claiming first generation Penryn will not have Hyper-Threading, and that the roadmap is incorrect. Our source claimed "We will not discuss future products, but the DailyTech article that had references to Hyper-Threading on 45nm Penryn is incorrect. The reference to Hyper-Threading was based on earlier data that has since been removed from Intel guidance."

We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.



NO HT ON 1ST GENERATION PENRYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[SexyK]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: SexyK

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
That picture confirms that there will be no HT in Wolfdale. Notice that is says "4/4" and "2/2" cores and threads. If there were HT, it would say "4/8" or even "4/12".

That is incorrect according to this story.

Perhaps the most interesting thing about these two processors is the return of Hyper-Threading. This, however, does not mean that Yorkfield will appear as eight logical cores, nor does it mean Wolfdale will appear as four logical cores. Intel's internal guidance on the subject specifically claims the processor will ship with Hyper-Threading, but will only utilize 4 threads. On every Intel roadmap in the past, Hyper-Threading doubles the amount of listed threads in the guidance documentation. Clearly, there is more of a mystery here still.

Sorry but you are incorrect. that aurthor made a correction...look at bottom...It links to this response...

With regard to Hyper-Threading: A slide to the roadmap supplied to DailyTech, available here, is one of the documents we used to verify the information in question.

However, I received a call today from someone running damage control claiming first generation Penryn will not have Hyper-Threading, and that the roadmap is incorrect. Our source claimed "We will not discuss future products, but the DailyTech article that had references to Hyper-Threading on 45nm Penryn is incorrect. The reference to Hyper-Threading was based on earlier data that has since been removed from Intel guidance."

We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.



NO HT ON 1ST GENERATION PENRYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks for the update - obviously the original article had not been changed when I posted.