New Intel PC Build ( 700 USD)

[Foxslink]

What about a water cooler,like h60 or arctic. Too overkill? They would use even less space , but there is risk of pipe leak and some use big vents and require big case.
ram is ok and so ssd
Well good night until tomorrow!

 

[Ken g6]

What about a water cooler,like h60 or arctic. Too overkill?

Yes. If you go with a non-K processor you can even use the stock cooler. (K processors don't come with one.)

I keep wondering whether the Sandisk X400 is worth the price over some cheaper, slower drives like those from A-Data. I'm really not sure.

 

[Foxslink]

What about the SK hynix? http://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a
This plextor doenst look bad either http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=2012219&SID=

We're out of luck on the motherboard rebate, now its full price :S http://pcpartpicker.com/product/8q38TW/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170xpsli
arent there any other good boards at 130 dollars?

Edit: you know what , Yolo my friend! im going for what we have, only thing id like to have more time to review is the SSD, the PNY looks fine, is it worth the $10 more for mushkin?

Tomorrow will buy everythin, will go for EliteRetard's last build, the link doesnt work but i can find the parts, if you can confirm on SSD before then id appreciate it. The H7 cooler seems alright for a small premium, i hope its not that huge inside the case x)

 

[RaistlinZ]

The Plextor SSD should be fine. Honestly, you've gone around with this for a while now, and are missing out on rebates. You could penny-pinch forever, but I say just go buy it already.

 

[Foxslink]

guys there was a problem with the payment so a bit more time to review, ive found a very recommended cooler , id like to know if its worth it the extra $10 compared to the H7 we have now, will it bother the Gskill Rams?
Scythe Fume
Scythe Fuma (SCFM-1000) Twin Tower/ Dual Slip Stream 120 PWM 120mm Fan 6-Heatpipe CPU Cooler by Scythe (Silver color)
Scythe Fuma Heatsink Review - Overclockers

Another option is to go for the H5, there is universal and ultimate edition, seems latter is better
http://pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=CRYORIG+H5
and i found a deal, board+i5+ram, but these ram are bit slower http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2433153
this asus mobo is a bit cheaper but not sure if audio is weak
this is what we have so far, still under 700 bucks so its perfect:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Foxslink/saved/khjKHx
its my final question and thank you all

 

[EliteRetard]

Looks like that Scythe Fuma would be better than the H7. It does look like the fan will hang over the RAM slots, but looks like the fans can be rearranged or we can get regular height modules.

The m9i is a good cheap cooler and should be good for lower mid-range overclocking (4 - 4.2). The H7 is a bit better and would tolerate more OC (4.2 - 4.4) and/or have lower temps. This Scythe Fuma would be another step above that, but Skylake chips do seem to have a typical limit around 4.4GHz...so you may not get much more speed with this cooler, but it would be cooler and cooler is better (if your area is hotter, the Fuma will be more worthwhile). Up to you which one you decide to go for. I see Newegg and a few other places have the cooler for the same $46 and free shipping, so you could add it to an order with other parts. I think the Fuma is pushing the budget for coolers, I wouldn't spend any more than ~50$ otherwise you could get the i7 (which is already at 4GHz) and the m9i.

Oh and real quick, that Asus MOBO you linked is a used open box product that somebody returned. I wouldn't get anything used/open box because it could be broken or missing parts.

I did see another SSD go on sale at Amazon, it's a lower end TLC unit but at $90 it might be an option (still faster than a HDD).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4NUKME/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

I'm sorry, but I gotta go again. I should be able to get back to add more here later today.

 

[Foxslink]

ok i see, what about the H5? is it worth the extra $ ? I live in warm city so might be better, h5 is bigger so only concern is if it blocks the ram .
Regarding the matx boards, can you install any of these coolers ( h5, h7) on it plus the 1070? im asking cuz the atx board we had has increased its price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K8Jkcf/asrock-motherboard-z170extreme3
If you cant reply before time i'll just go with what my gut tells me, too much second guessing and ill end up with nothing
good luck amigo and hope to hear from u soon, muchas gracias por todo

 

[EliteRetard]

Sorry about the response time, I've been dealing with a serious injury in the family and things can be unpredictable.

Anyway, the H5 Ultimate does cool better than the H7 but it may hang over the RAM. The H5 Universal is supposed to prevent that with a thinner weaker fan.
From what I have seen, the Fuma may cool a little bit better than the H5 Ultimate but is louder at the same percent fan speed (Fuma does have 2 fans vs 1 on H5).
Also reviews mentioned the Fuma can be tricky to mount, and easy to over tighten which can crush/destroy a CPU (especially Skylake which has a thinner PCB)
Most reviews liked the mounting system on the H5 Ultimate. If this is your first time it may be an important consideration.

The Fuma is also likely to hang over the RAM, but any of these coolers should be fine on a MATX board with a GTX1070 or other GPU. However, if we go back to the RAM I had first picked, the Corsair LPX, it's only 2mm higher than standard RAM and should fit under these bigger coolers even if they sit over the top.

Being a warmer climate I'd say go for at least the H7, but the Fuma or H5 Ultimate are even cooler options. The H5 Universal wasn't that much better than the H7 because it has a thinner weaker fan (although the heatsink is bigger). With the lower profile RAM any of these options should fit even on a MATX board.
One thing to consider with the larger coolers is the case width/size. Especially if you decide to go with a MATX board and a small case, though there are options that will work. The H7 is 145mm tall, the FUMA is 150mm and the H5 is 160-168mm tall. There are places that list the max cooler height (example: http://www.toptengamer.com/pc-case-compatible-cooler-gpu-heatsink/ ) or you can usually find the info with an internet search of the specific case you're looking at.

If you're interested in the smaller MATX boards it looks like the two best options right now are:
$107 ASRock Z170M-Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157675
Advantage for the ASRock is the Intel NIC (vs Killer) and lower price

$130 Gigabyte Z170MX-Gaming5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128844
Advantage for the Gigabyte is board layout, M.2 above GPU not under it. Also reinforced PCIe slots

The Corsair LPX 3000MHz RAM is on the qualified list for the Gigabyte board, and should also work in the ASRock (similar but not identical kits are qualified)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852

Here's a build with the H5 Ultimate, LPX RAM, and the Gigabyte MOBO:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7CbLD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7CbLD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS2211 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ NCIX US)

Total: $709.60

You could choose the Fuma cooler, it's about the same price as the H5, or save about $10 by going with the H7.
If you chose the ASRock MOBO the price would be about $681
If you need to save money another way, you could possibly go for a cheaper SSD, though I think we are close enough on budget that I'd keep the PNY.

The PNY CS2211 is currently the cheapest 500GB MLC drive as far as I know, but the weaker TLC drives do cost less. They are slower and less durable, but good TLC drives are still faster than HDDs and should still last 5 years, possibly more. The OCZ Trion 150 I mentioned has gone from $90 to $110, but that's still a fair bit cheaper than the PNY currently. The OCZ has a 3 year warranty and the PNY has a 4 year warranty. Here's a comparison of the two drives (notice that sometimes lower scores are better, read the descriptions) http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1650?vs=1675

 

[Foxslink]

Hey man, glad your back and i hope your family and everything is ok
sadly i didnt have more time to review so i had to purchase b4 hearing from you and i went for what my gut told me, i chose the same ATX gigabyte board we had before, the Gskill Rams and here is what i changed, i decided to go for intel i7 6700k cuz my old man was generous and gave me 100 bucks more for the pc build, so i decided to invest it in that (i got greedy 😀), you said that CPU came at stock 4.0 clock speed and there wasnt need for a good cooler so i went for Mi9 (the budget Cryorig), which is kinda lame because i intended to choose H7 but it was out of stock, , i wont be doing OC so i thought it wasnt crucial to get bigger cooler, lets hope the weather wont be too for it to handle.

Regarding the Power supply i bought the EVGA gold 550 we saw before, this one i got from Superbiiz along with the CPU and MotherBoard, they saved me one in stock and the mobo so i paid shipping for these 3 items in one nice package. The chosen SSD is the same PNY MLC you advised. I wish i saw your message in time, even though i think i made a good decision nevertheless and we took plenty of time too. Only thing thats worrying is the cooler and the Ram, they are not low profile as the Corsair but i recall you saying that mi9 wouldnt block them in any way, i also think that the money invested in i7 could have been put to better use like a better cooler or a nice case, well it as it is and this pc will be a freaking beast.

My dad will bring all this parts when he flies back to Chile in about 2 weeks, so that gives me plenty of time to choose a Case, could you help me pick a nice Atx ? i will put the links to Chilean stores where they have cases. I will try to find one thats pretty meanwhile. And expect a Showroom when everthing is here and built!
I really appreciate a lot your help, you are a compadre, which is higher title than amigo, this was really possible thanks to you. if you ever come to Chile and need help getting around, you can count with me.
Look forward to hearin your comments

http://www.solotodo.com/computer_cases/
http://ttchile.cl/catpro.php?ic=13
http://www.sistemax.cl/webstore/index.php?route=product/category&path=88
https://www.pcfactory.cl/?categoria=328&papa=326
https://www.wei.cl/index.htm?op=categoria&ccode=1221

PS: Gabinete is Case x)
also Marca = Brand and
Precio = Price

 

[EliteRetard]

If you're looking for advice on cases, there is a section for that:

https://forums.anandtech.com/forums/cases-cooling.13/

Might be worth starting a thread there with your parts list so you can get opinions from other people on what may fit/look best and keep things cool.
The only cases I can recommend off the top of my head right now are big cheap cases, I'll have to look around a bit to see if there's a better option for this build.

Speaking of parts lists, looks like this is what you ended up with?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTBTYr

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS2211 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $746.83

I don't see any problems with this final build. 6700K is the best gaming CPU right now, and the M9i should keep it cool under heavy loads with no OC.
Nothing really wrong with the RAM either, only the larger coolers might have interfered, but the M9i (or H7) shouldn't be an issue.
It's also a good higher range speed and low latency as well, which should provide enough bandwidth for anything in the next few years.

I do wonder if there's a good way to have all the part's tested before flying them out. If it sits at his place for 2+ weeks before getting to you, and then you find a bad part or something...shipping it back and whatnot could be a hassle. And you may not be in the return window for the retailer, meaning you'd have to deal with the manufacturer refurb process.

You can build/test a PC without a case for temporary, but it still requires full assembly and having windows or another operating system to install. Then you'd need to disassemble it to pack it back up and bring it home. The build and disassemble is actually fairly easy, but you don't have an OS to use. You may also use up the thermal paste that it comes with, I don't know how much they give you (I haven't used this cooler myself). You actually only need a pea sized amount in the center of the CPU, which then gets pressed and spread out when the cooler is mounted. It's not much (and using more is actually bad), so you may have enough for a second install...if not you'd need to buy some more, but that should only be 5-8$ for a cooler like this.

 

[EliteRetard]

May I ask where your dad is located? I wonder if he is close enough to one of the forum members here that would be willing to build/test the parts for you.

 

[Foxslink]

im glad you approve the build and the Rams are ok. The parts are in my uncles house so he would have to send them to a tech store or a forum member close to him and have them tested, we'd also need to install a Windows on the SSD, when you first install an OS on an SSD i think you have to do some tweaks before, right? He lives in Alexandria, VA. The problem is my dad is in Denver Colorado right now and he doesnt have a car, my uncle works everyday, i would have to ask him where he can send the parts to test them and if he has the time, there is a risk doing that too because maybe the person testing the PC may break something who knows, and my uncle doesnt know jacksh*t about PCs. I think its best to leave the pieces alone and test them in my home, both ways have a risk but as a good gambler i have to take my chances with one bet, maybe we'll get lucky and all the parts work perfect, its frightnening to think that something wont work. Well If you know someone around that area would be nice, we can try to find a solution.
Thanks again compa

Edit: here is the Case Thread : https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/budget-case-for-new-pc-build.2485874/

 

[EliteRetard]

If you're getting a SATA SSD then you do want to go into the BIOS and set AHCI (instead of the old IDE mode) before installing windows.
Do you have a copy already? Which version are you thinking of installing? Windows 7 will probably work, but all these new parts will work best in Win 10, 64 bit.

It's fairly rare to get a bad part, but it does happen. And it's slightly more likely since you have many individual parts. Say it's only a 1% chance for each part, with 6 parts it's actually more like a 6% chance of getting at least one bad part (that whole multiplied probability thing).

My suggestion was just to get you thinking about it...if there is an easy way to get things tested then it would be worth it. Not worth it if it's going to be a big hassle or expense. You want to at least open the main shipping boxes and confirm all the items and make sure nothing got damaged in shipping. I think every computer nerd has at least one horror story of the shipping company smashing their stuff with a baseball bat before running it over and then throwing it out of the truck toward their house as it drives by.

When you do get to building, it's always a good idea to get a clean prep area set up, have all the right tools, make sure you ground yourself etc to minimize the chance that you damage something during assembly.

 

[Foxslink]

I have a windows 10 pro '' free'' edition, my uncle wont be able to install it so only option left is to ask him to check if the parts came in good shape, thats a good idea. tomorrow ill talk to him and see if can send the parts to some tech store and how much will that be, probably a lot because ill have to pay the gas plus the tech revision, wish i could just teleport there for an hour and do it myself, like the portal game x).
What are the right tools to build? i have screwdrivers but nothing else, they dont even have magnets.

Regarding my current PC sale, what do you think is best to clean it? im trying to find a horsehair paintbrush to clean the GPU to avoid static, im also using arctic silver thermal paste, should i apply it to the CPU as well? the cpu cooler is very dusty and so is the GPU, i will have to clean it well to put it on sale with nice decent photos