New Hampshire primary results

[ivwshane]

Projected democrat winner - bernie Sanders (so far he's at around 60%) with currently about 97k votes.
Clinton is currently sitting at about 39% with about 63k votes.

Republican winner is trump - with about 34% and around 63k votes.
#2 is kasich with about 16% and 30k votes.

Number three is cruz at about 12% 21k votes.

Bush at #4 at 11% and around 20k votes.


Hopefully this means Christie will call it quits as should fiorina and carson.
I think Rubio is pretty much done too but we will know after at least one more primary.

 

[Subyman]

Candidates need to bail out so someone else finally has a chance against Trump's base.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Candidates need to bail out so someone else finally has a chance against Trump's base.

It would actually be hilarious, if Trump wins, because the people with no chance won't drop out.

The issue is which of the four should leave? Personally, I prefer Kasich stays.

 

[ivwshane]

Yep but who? Right now the battle for third could go to three candidates.

 

[Subyman]

It would actually be hilarious, if Trump wins, because the people with no chance won't drop out.

Well, their delegates don't disappear. They are released to "vote their conscience" but it is more like, who will give me the best deal when they go into the conference. A lot of time the candidate that bails out will support another candidate and ask their delegates to support that person, but they aren't required to.

If trump keeps hanging around 30% then he is screwed.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Well, their delegates don't disappear. They are released to "vote their conscience" but it is more like, who will give me the best deal when they go into the conference. A lot of time the candidate that bails out will support another candidate and ask their delegates to support that person, but they aren't required to.

If trump keeps hanging around 30% then he is screwed.

The majority would likely support someone other than Trump, right? That's what I am assuming anyways. Trump's only chance seems to rely on the others refusing to pull out.

 

[Subyman]

The majority would likely support someone other than Trump, right? That's what I am assuming anyways. Trump's only chance seems to rely on the others refusing to pull out.

I would certainly think so. There are also super delegates who have no obligation to begin with. I'm uncertain how many there are, but they are honorary members of the GOP which are more likely to vote conventionally.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol! I just saw trump talking about the unemployment rate and saying the numbers are made up. He "read" somewhere that unemployment is really around 30%!

He's found his bread and butter and his next suckers!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

 

[dullard]

With 241 votes (89% counted) Vermin Supreme beat all but 3 Democrat candidates (not dramatically fewer votes than O'Malley) and beat about 2/3rds of the GOP candidates. He just needs to tweak his message a bit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

 

[pcgeek11]

Damn Hillary took an @ss whipping!

That is funny.

 

[compuwiz1]

Damn Hillary took an @ss whipping!

That is funny.

Where is a .gif with Hillary bending over and Bernie cracking a whip over her bum, when you need one?

 

[Jaepheth]

Not so much

Looks like Hillary may get just as many if not more delegates from NH than sanders despite the voter discrepancy.

How often do super-delegates change/withdraw their pledged support?

 

[compuwiz1]

Not so much

Looks like Hillary may get just as many if not more delegates from NH than sanders despite the voter discrepancy.

How often do super-delegates change/withdraw their pledged support?

Beats her by a 20 pts. and it's a voter discrepancy? Explain that shit.

 

[Jaepheth]

Beats her by a 20 pts. and it's a voter discrepancy? Explain that shit.

Sorry, "discrepancy" was probably the wrong word.

The math didn't seem to work out and I couldn't see why. Dug around a little and found the HuffPo article includes current super-delegate support.

As it stands now Sanders indeed will get 60% of the NH pledged delegates (13)
and Clinton will get 9 plus the likely 6 super delegates that have stated their support for a total of 15

 

[compuwiz1]

Sorry, "discrepancy" was probably the wrong word.

The math didn't seem to work out and I couldn't see why. Dug around a little and found the HuffPo article includes current super-delegate support.

As it stands now Sanders indeed will get 60% of the NH pledged delegates (13)
and Clinton will get 9 plus the likely 6 super delegates that have stated their support for a total of 15

I'm trying to get my head around the super delegates aspect of it. What does our vote matter then?

 

[Jaepheth]

I'm trying to get my head around the super delegates aspect of it. What does our vote matter then?

Voting in America is designed as a way for the people to tell their rulers, "the way they would like to be governed, pretty please."

Between delegates, electoral colleges, and party politics; us plebs are well removed from any actual power. This is a republic after all, not a democracy.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the super delegates give Hillary the win, even if Bernie beats her by 10 points.

The oligarchs need to lock up those supreme court seats!

 

[compuwiz1]

So am I to understand that if Bernie were to beat Hillary, all the way through super Tuesday, she could still have more delegates than him and get the nomination? If so, bloody hell!!!

And, if that's the case, no wonder Bush seems so smug.

What's the point of the circus anyway?

 

[Jaepheth]

What's the point of the circus anyway?

pitchfork barometer

 

[compuwiz1]

pitchfork barometer

haha..I guess I didn't understand "we the people". It really means "we the big people, not we the little people".

 

[pcgeek11]

Sorry, "discrepancy" was probably the wrong word.

The math didn't seem to work out and I couldn't see why. Dug around a little and found the HuffPo article includes current super-delegate support.

As it stands now Sanders indeed will get 60% of the NH pledged delegates (13)
and Clinton will get 9 plus the likely 6 super delegates that have stated their support for a total of 15

This is one of the many reasons our system is completely screwed up. Not to mention the Electoral College crap.

 

[compuwiz1]

This is one of the many reasons our system is completely screwed up. Not to mention the Electoral College crap.

Voting is an episode of mental masturbation. The powers that be determine the outcome.

 

[Jaepheth]

Here, I made a handy chart they can use:

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Voting is an episode of mental masturbation. The powers that be determine the outcome.

Bernie Sanders is the exception to that rule.

He might not be able to fix anything, but his scotus picks is the start.