New GTX 560ti, no improvement from 8800GT *solved*

[kaioshade]

I recently built a new system as an upgrade from my old dell running a q6600 4GB DDR2 ram, and an 8800GT video card

Current Specs:

i5 3570k
16GB 1600 DDR3
GTX 560 ti
AsRock Z77 Pro 4-M

Framerates havent not changed one bit. This is a fresh install of windows, nvidia drivers are up to date. I was playing AIon on the 8800gt and getting 30-40 FPS on max settings. New card, exact same framerates. If this card is much faster, wouldnt it be able to get 60 FOS in AIon with ease?

I am at a loss here.

*edit* seems to be Aion. Every other game i ran has shown significantly higher framerates. Funny enough one of the reasons i upgraded was to get better fps from that game. AH well. Everything else is great. Witcher 2 in particular.

 

[borisvodofsky]

I recently built a new system as an upgrade from my old dell running a q6600 4GB DDR2 ram, and an 8800GT video card

Current Specs:

i5 3570k
16GB 1600 DDR3
GTX 560 ti
AsRock Z77 Pro 4-M

Framerates havent not changed one bit. This is a fresh install of windows, nvidia drivers are up to date. I was playing AIon on the 8800gt and getting 30-40 FPS on max settings. New card, exact same framerates. If this card is much faster, wouldnt it be able to get 60 FOS in AIon with ease?

I am at a loss here.

Hmm... overclock time.

 

[kaioshade]

Before i overclock i would like to get to the bottom of the framerate issues. This card should be able to at least double the framerates of the 8800gt. that is what every benchmark out there has painted for me.

I am using a seasonic 620w power supply, both pci-e connectors are seated properly. I am pretty sure 620w should be sufficient for the load the video card demands.

 

[poohbear]

in all the benchmarks that i've seen a 560 ti blows a 8800gt out the water, so obviously something is amiss.

 

[kaioshade]

I have double checked all wiring, power supply is good. gpu-z reports nothing weird.
This is completely baffling.

 

[Jaydip]

I recently built a new system as an upgrade from my old dell running a q6600 4GB DDR2 ram, and an 8800GT video card

Current Specs:

i5 3570k
16GB 1600 DDR3
GTX 560 ti
AsRock Z77 Pro 4-M

Framerates havent not changed one bit. This is a fresh install of windows, nvidia drivers are up to date. I was playing AIon on the 8800gt and getting 30-40 FPS on max settings. New card, exact same framerates. If this card is much faster, wouldnt it be able to get 60 FOS in AIon with ease?

I am at a loss here.

What about some new game benches?

 

[kami]

Before i overclock i would like to get to the bottom of the framerate issues. This card should be able to at least double the framerates of the 8800gt. that is what every benchmark out there has painted for me.

I am using a seasonic 620w power supply, both pci-e connectors are seated properly. I am pretty sure 620w should be sufficient for the load the video card demands.

These benchmarks you are talking about, are they Aion benchmarks?

I am not familiar with Aion but most MMOs are severely CPU bound, and some of them are just horribly optimized.

edit: comparing a game that you know for sure scales with GPU is one way to see if there is anything wrong.

 

[kaioshade]

What about some new game benches?

I am reinstalling the witcher now, which i know my 8800gt could not max out without some skipping. Will report back in a little bit

 

[Jaydip]

OK that would be great.

 

[kaioshade]

I did not run any hard numbers, but it The Witcher ran significantly better on thr 560ti than the 8800gt. Ran everything maxed and the game was silky smooth. guess Aion might be a terribly optimized game. Didnt think it would be that bad. I am off to try some other gmes. Will report back with some hard numbers

 

[nenforcer]

Certain games, of which Starcraft 2 is a notorious DirectX 9 title, don't use more than 2 cores and no features of DirectX 10 or DirectX 11.

They are pretty much CPU bound and just need high clock rate dual cores to run multiplayer battles real well.

 

[KCfromNC]

One obvious thing to check is that you've installed the card in a 16x PCIe slot instead of a slower one. I think the CPU-limited ideas earlier in the thread are more likely the problem, but it can't hurt to check.

 

[lehtv]

How could it possibly be a CPU limitation? 3570K is twice as fast as Q6600, and 560 Ti is similarly faster compared to 8800GT. If Aion was a particularly CPU limited game, the OP should see a big increase in framerates.

It sounds to me that Aion is just poorly coded and doesn't take proper advantage of fast hardware.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

If you go from Dx9 to Dx10 or Dx10 to Dx11 or something like that, then that could be the reason. Or something like Tesselation enabled etc when it wasn't earlier perhaps.

 

[Don Karnage]

What games are you playing?

 

[IAteYourMother]

I upgraded to my current 560Ti from an 8800GT, and the difference was night and day. That is pretty baffling.

 

[JohnnyChuttz]

User error. I upgraded to the 560ti from a 9800 GT and noticed an improvement in every game.

 

[Insomniator]

Hmm... overclock time.

And what part does overclocking have in his troubleshooting?

 

[jiffylube1024]

I recently built a new system as an upgrade from my old dell running a q6600 4GB DDR2 ram, and an 8800GT video card

Current Specs:

i5 3570k
16GB 1600 DDR3
GTX 560 ti
AsRock Z77 Pro 4-M

Framerates havent not changed one bit. This is a fresh install of windows, nvidia drivers are up to date. I was playing AIon on the 8800gt and getting 30-40 FPS on max settings. New card, exact same framerates. If this card is much faster, wouldnt it be able to get 60 FOS in AIon with ease?

I am at a loss here.

It's got to be the game. Both that CPU and GPU are wayyy faster than your previous setup. Pretty much everything should show a drastic improvement.

If you're running at the same resolution as before (you don't mention your monitor/resolution), you should also be able to get away with a lot more AA in most titles.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I did not run any hard numbers, but it The Witcher ran significantly better on thr 560ti than the 8800gt. Ran everything maxed and the game was silky smooth. guess Aion might be a terribly optimized game. Didnt think it would be that bad. I am off to try some other gmes. Will report back with some hard numbers

Good to hear it was a false alarm. FYI, you can edit the original post, including the thread title if you go to advanced view.

 

[kaioshade]

Thanks everyone, I jumped to conclusions a bit early. Aion just hates everything lol.

 

[HexiumVII]

Most MMOs have terrible, terrible graphics engine code. All the time is put into the game. I tried to play this asian MMO, dynasty empire or something like that, i barely get 30fps on my 4.4GHz Ivy with a GTX670 LOL!

 

[Cerb]

Thanks everyone, I jumped to conclusions a bit early. Aion just hates everything lol.

That's normal, for Asian MMOs, really. Throw anti-aliasing, high-quality texture filtering, and high quality ambient occlusion at it (if applicable), to get some use out of the new card for that game.