New Gaming Rig Need some input

Gulkorr

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My budet was around $1,200-$1,400 but then i was like well i should just spend a little more but not to much because i like to upgrade every 3-4 years i am still running a 8800GTX and 17" Lcd 1280x1024 atm

I found a combo deal i dont think i could pass up. i will link the parts and please tell me what you think.

Intel Core i7-920/ASUS P6T X58 Chipset SuperCombo Kit $1,219.96 with $30 mib

ok here is the run down of the combo deal.

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.343649

* Intel Core i7-920 (Bloomfield) 2.66GHz Socket 1366 130W Quad Core Processor (BX80601920) - Retail
* ASUS Intel X58 Express Chipset Socket 1336 ATX Motherboard (P6T) - Retail
* 2x Sapphire Radeon HD 4860 1GB 256bit GDDR5 PCI-E 2.0 x16 (100286L) CrossFireX Certified - Two Retail Units
* OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) low voltage Triple Channel Desktop Memory Kit (OCZ3G1600LV6GK) - Retail
* Seagate Barracuda LP 1.5TB 5900RPM 32MB cache SATA II 3.5" Hard Drive (ST31500841AS) - OEM
* LG Black 24X DVD+/-R 8X DVD+RW 6X DVD-RW SATA 5.25" DL-DVD Burner (GH24NS50) - OEM
* Cooler Master V8 120mm Rifle CPU Cooling Fan (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP) - Retail
* Cooler Master Storm Scout Black Steel/Plastic Mid ATX Tower Case (SGC-2000-KKN1-GP) - Retail
* Cooler Master Silent Pro 600 Series 600Watt ATX12V v2.3 CrossFireX/SLI/80 Plus Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply (RS-600-AMBA-D3) - Retail

It's a Core i7 920 with V8 Cooler which i have heard nothing but good things about it. Now i know with the hard drive being slow but i can pick up a 300gb raptor for my o/s and games and use the 1.5tb for video,music and what ever else i feel. I know the 4860 are cut down 4890's so i would be overclocking both of them.

now my qestion is will xfire help with games or does the game need to be made for xfire in order for it to work?

i think this is a good price for what you get. because i could always sell of the 4860's for say $100 or $110 e/a and buy a 5850 or something along them line's.

Now for the Psu would 600watt 40amp on the 12v be good for this setup? i could upgrade later and upgrade the hdd,gpu at a later time but i would be getting the cpu/mobo/mem is what is good about the deal and come other thing's.

Please let me know what you think and sorry for making you read so much :X

Thanks for your time!
 

jtisgeek

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Looks good to me I would go maybe a little higher on the psu but that one will probably work.

On the crossfire question it will work with every game but you will only see big speed increase from games that have a profile made for it in the drivers.

For a little more money you can go with 2x 5770 with will beat a 5870 thats what I would build . Dx 11 doesn't hurt either.

You will need a bigger lcd to go along with that in the long run anything less than 1080p would be a waste of power.:twisted:
 

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Your link is borked. How much does the combo save you?

I agree that the Barracuda LP is unsuitable as an OS drive. However, I wouldn't bother with a Raptor. Either go with a WD Black which is cheap and very fast for a mechanical drive, or go for an SSD, which is much more expensive but is around an order of magnitude faster when it matters (access time and random IOPS). The Raptors are just a terrible value proposition right now.
 

klocwerk

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Unless you're getting a new monitor, that's WAY overpowered to drive 1280x1024 gaming. If you ask me, you could do much better putting together your own combo.
 

RaistlinZ

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I also don't like that combo. A 5900rpm drive to run everything? Fail. Switch that to a WD Caviar Black or a Samsung Spinpoint F3 at least.

2x 4860 is also strange. If you're building a rig for the future you might as well get a 5850 or 2x 5770s. They will suit you well once you decide to upgrade your monitor.
 

MisterDonut

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You should probably think about a new monitor. That resolution is way yesterday :D. You can also probably build something cheaper and better. I would only get the 1366 platform for multiple GPU's when comparing against the 1156.

i5-750 ($195)

UD2 ($105) OR UD4P (CFX, USB/SATA 3, but I wouldn't consider the usb/sata yet. You can if you want. $185)

4GB G.Skill ECO DDR3-1600 ($110)

Scythe Mugen 2 ($40)

WD Caviar Black 640gb ($75) + Whatever storage device you want. SSDs are fast, nice, snappy, but for gaming, they are nearly useless, IMO.

LG/Any Burner ($25)

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6'' ($210, $200 AR)

Corsair TX650. HX is the better build but it's like $20 more. ($100, $80 AR)

Antec 300 ($55) Or whatever else you want. The CM 690II is nice, but it's more expensive. Antec 300 is, imo, the sweetest case for its price.

ATI 5850 ($300). @ 5870 stock speeds, it's within 2-3% performance. Oh, and, it OC's like magic. Little voltage bump, get it to 1ghz clock.

This puts you at $1215, before taxes and rebates (Including UD2 and not UD4P). And it's a fucking kickass system :). If you have more money in your budget, you can save it. If not, spend it on a storage HDD or the better motherboard. Again, SSDs are way too expensive for gaming. AM3 is a suitable option for your needs, but since you have a very nice budget, a 1156 wouldn't be bad either. You'll get nearly identical performance from either in gaming and save about $50 maybe (With a 955 BE). With a 620 Propus, you'll save about $100.
 

Gulkorr

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Also about the Amd BE 955 i would not see a differnce in gaming? because i was going to go the amd route then was thinking well the socket 1156 would give me more life i just want the computer to last about 3+ years really. if i can do it

sorry about the broken link here is the combo deal link. i would be saving $116.94

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.343649

and i forgot to add my montior i was going to get the Asus 24" gtg 2ms 1920x1080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236049 $229

I firgured i should just get a 24" and be done with it for a while.

I would use the 4860's for a little while about a mouth to see how they do. and then sell them off for a 5850.

Also i would get a WD black 750g for $74.99 at the egg.

the reason i went with the socket 1366 core i 920 was because it would future proof me a little bit.

I put togather a socket 1156 real qiuck. and here is the build.

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $129.99 -$30 instant $99.99

EVGA P55 FTW SLI 132-LF-E657-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $229.99 with $30 mib Reason is becasue i have seen people have this mobo to support Intel Xeon X3440

CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 - Retail $114.99 -$5 instant $109.99

Intel Xeon X3440 Lynnfield 2.53GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Server Processor Model BX80605X3440 - Retail $239.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99

LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail $31.99

XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity - Retail $309.99

XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.96

XIGMATEK ACK-I5363 Intel Core i7/Core i5 compatible Bracket Set - Retail $7.99

Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail $4.99

with out shiping $1494.85

shippings $1531.89

Would it be hard to get a 3.2ghz overclock Intel Xeon X3440

Or better yet so i get both qestions answered at once here is a Amd Phenom II 955 build

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $129.99 -$30 instant $99.99

ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $199.99
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GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $139.99

CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 - Retail $114.99 -$5 instant $109.99

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGMBOX - Retail $159.99 this is Rev 3C

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99

LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail $31.99

XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity - Retail $309.99

XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.96

Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail $4.99

total with out shipping $1384.85

Shipping $1425.63

P.s i just play games wow,cnc3,cnc4,sc2, and some other one's so which would be better for my gaming needs is what it really comes down to and is some what the cheap router and good performace
 
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Gulkorr

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i was last night and today i got on and made a core i7 860 build.

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $129.99 -$30 instant $99.99

ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $134.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM - Retail $114.99

Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 - Retail $279.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99

LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support - Retail $31.99

XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity - Retail $309.99

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler - Retail $79.99

Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail $4.99

Total with out shipping $1471.89

Shipping Total $1512.47
 

RaistlinZ

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I say just go with the 1366 option. Forget the dual 4860's, just go with 5850 and be happy. :)
 

MisterDonut

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1156 would be better for one 5850 :p. If you're gonna CFX down the line, then go with 1366, but with the games now, they don't really need two 5850's :p.
 

Gulkorr

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if i had a micro center by i would be happy. i was thinking of doing xfire down the road. here is a socket 1366 build i will just have to find someone who lives close to a micro center and maybe would pick me up one for a little extra cash. but it's only like $30-40 more dollars.

here is the mobo and ram i will get

ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $159.99

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI - Retail $179.99

if i could get a core i7 920 for $250 now if i could someone who would do it to make like a 10-20 profit i would be happy but i dont know anybody near a micro center unless someone on the forums would do it and i work out a deal with them.

the total with be $1566.39 with shipping for everything.
 

Ancalagon44

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Whats a 4860? I've only ever heard of a 4850, 4870 and 4890. Dont bother with CrossFire - rather buy a single powerful card than two weaker ones. Less power used, less expansion slots used, less noise, less heat, generally faster, no worries about CrossFire profiles.
 

klocwerk

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if i had a micro center by i would be happy. i was thinking of doing xfire down the road. here is a socket 1366 build i will just have to find someone who lives close to a micro center and maybe would pick me up one for a little extra cash. but it's only like $30-40 more dollars.

here is the mobo and ram i will get

ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $159.99

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI - Retail $179.99

if i could get a core i7 920 for $250 now if i could someone who would do it to make like a 10-20 profit i would be happy but i dont know anybody near a micro center unless someone on the forums would do it and i work out a deal with them.

the total with be $1566.39 with shipping for everything.

Now that I can get behind! (see sig. :D )
I'd offer to pick you up a 920 at my local MC, but after taxes and shipping it you may not save much if anything...
 

Gulkorr

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anit they still $200? or did that change? and taxes should'nt be over what $30? unless they are like 240 or somethin now >.<
 

klocwerk

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anit they still $200? or did that change? and taxes should'nt be over what $30? unless they are like 240 or somethin now >.<

Yeesh, newegg and tigerdirect want $290 for one? didn't realize the prices were that far out of whack.
PM me if you do want me to try to grab one for you, we may be able to work something out. My schedule sucks this week though, I warn you. You might just check the fs/ft forum, probably one or two floating around in there.
 

Gulkorr

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alright ill do that. worse case i will hit you up. am waiting on my big refund i figured i would get my build down. and do some looking into it might change a few parts. let me know how the Asrock is. because i have never tired them before, I have always went with Asus
 

klocwerk

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alright ill do that. worse case i will hit you up. am waiting on my big refund i figured i would get my build down. and do some looking into it might change a few parts. let me know how the Asrock is. because i have never tired them before, I have always went with Asus

The Asrock gets good reviews, but it's definitely an entry level x58 board and doesn't quite keep up on performance with the other boards. It's within 1-2% on all tests I've seen though, and honestly that's good enough for me to save $100. ;)

Toms Hardware uses it as their benchmark board for x58, and people generally seem pretty happy with them. Just avoid OCZ RAM on it, seems to be a compatibility issue at the moment. Will probably get sorted with a BIOS update, but better safe than sorry.
 

Gulkorr

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what kind of case you getting? i was looking at a new case LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 the reason i like the K62 is because of the full window or COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue but the qestion is worth the $79 more? because i want a good case. but i wanna mod because i will be making good money in the summer :D so i will be going water cooling. in the near furture
 

klocwerk

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what kind of case you getting? i was looking at a new case LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 or COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue but the qestion is worth the $79 more? because i want a good case. but i wanna mod because i will be making good money in the summer :D so i will be going water cooling. in the near furture

Reusing my Antec SonataII for the moment.
No clue on water cooling, check the Cases and Cooling forum.
 

Gulkorr

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i just hope this core i7 920 and 5850 will last about 3-4 years and then i can add a 5850 about year down the road :D
 

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alright ill do that. worse case i will hit you up. am waiting on my big refund i figured i would get my build down. and do some looking into it might change a few parts. let me know how the Asrock is. because i have never tired them before, I have always went with Asus

I like the ASROCK Extreme a lot...my RAM gives me trouble, but I can still easily OC to 3.3 or 3.4. Too bad, becauase with GSkill RAM in there, I can post at 4.0 and 1.2v.

Look into the CM 690 II Advanced. I really like their design and acknowledgment of what a water cooled system needs. However, given what you can do with a high-end air cooler and the relative ease of air when compared to water cooling, I don't know if water cooling is even worth it anymore.
 
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Gulkorr

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i was going to get the LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 and pop the CORSAIR H50 on the back with 2 120mm fans. because from my understanding the H50 is a good cooler. now the ram i am getting the G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 The awesome looking ram. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231247

Could i get a good o/c with the H50 and the G.skill and the Asrock mobo? because i just wanna do a 3.2 o/c to start out then go push it some more after a well.

and would the CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W be a good psu for my setup and work good if i add other 5850?