New gaming computer about $1,000.00 need help

[mnewsham]

I think they meant that since the SSD have a certain amount of times it can move data, it would be unwise to keep games onto the ssd as patches and save files will keep rewriting the SSD storage and will shorten the lifespan of the SSD. I do not know if this make any sense as I can't clearly write it down but I kind of get their meaning.

I won't be having too much games onto the system, Like I said before, I only used an 80GB HDD before and that pretty much was all I needed with the listed game on my first post installed. I do know that picture/music/docs/etc files will later go onto the HDD rather then the SSD as I definitely can wait til the price for SSD drops back to normal. I'm just really afraid I would shorten the lifespan of the SSD that is all.

Don't worry about that unless you think you will be using the same SSD in 10+ years.

 

[Kazukun]

So for maybe about 5 or so years, it would be fine?

 

[mnewsham]

Unless you are constantly writing data to the drive I would think so yeah.

 

[Kazukun]

do games patches and saves writes alot? Like I said before, the only few games I would be putting into the SSD are BF3, Witcher, SC2, Total war shogun, SWTOR, and once diablo 3 comes out.

 

[mnewsham]

do games patches and saves writes alot? Like I said before, the only few games I would be putting into the SSD are BF3, Witcher, SC2, Total war shogun, SWTOR, and once diablo 3 comes out.

SWTOR might not do too well on an SSD because it is a constantly evolving game that patches weekly. You would see much better load times then on an HDD though. Although SWTOR could break 30GB soon and will only keep growing. The others SHOULD be fine.

 

[mfenn]

do games patches and saves writes alot? Like I said before, the only few games I would be putting into the SSD are BF3, Witcher, SC2, Total war shogun, SWTOR, and once diablo 3 comes out.

Constantly writing means just that, constantly writing. Just patching a game ever week will in no way even come close to wearing out an SSD. SSD lifespan is for all intents and purposes a non-issue. Anand measured that he had put an average of like 30 (out of 5000) write/erase cycles on his SSD in a year.

 

[mfenn]

A quick question about network cards. Do they make the speed much better for their price tag or are they not worth it? My system will be connected through wired at all times but just wondering if I'll be getting the full 25 mbs.

The mobo's onboard Ethernet controller is good for a gigabit, it will be completely yawning at 25 Mb/s.

 

[Kazukun]

Awesome that's great news, thanks for the info. I guess I'll keep SWTOR on the SSD at least until the prices for HDD's gets back to normal.

 

[Kazukun]

Hey guys it's me again. been super busy at work these past few days. A quick question, what would be a good Blu Ray drive. I do not need the burning function so just a simple read Blu ray drive would be great.

I plan to start off with the 2x4gb ram, but was wondering if 8gb later down the line is worth it or not?

 

[mnewsham]

Do you already have a collection of Blurays? If not I wouldn't bother investing in a drive. You can download and stream 1080p content these days so unless you are collecting Blurays there really is little point in having a drive.

And it really depends on what you are doing. For gaming the difference between 8GB and 16GB will not be significant. at least not yet.

 

[mfenn]

Hey guys it's me again. been super busy at work these past few days. A quick question, what would be a good Blu Ray drive. I do not need the burning function so just a simple read Blu ray drive would be great.

Something like this Samsung for $53 would be fine, plays Blu-rays and writes DVDs. However, see below.

Do you already have a collection of Blurays? If not I wouldn't bother investing in a drive. You can download and stream 1080p content these days so unless you are collecting Blurays there really is little point in having a drive.

And it really depends on what you are doing. For gaming the difference between 8GB and 16GB will not be significant. at least not yet.

 

[Belegost]

Those worries about NAND write limitations are not an issue on current SSDs. Even writing files all day it would take a couple years to wear out the new drives.

 

[Kazukun]

I do have a collection of Blu Rays. So far I've been using my PS3 for them, but I already had that PS3 fixed 3 times due to YLOD since it was one of those 1st gen ones. (waited outside best buy for 4 days at the launch) I'm planning on getting a second monitor in a month or 2 and basically one will be for gaming and the other would be either streaming or watching movies on.

 

[soccerballtux]

Those worries about NAND write limitations are not an issue on current SSDs. Even writing files all day it would take a couple years to wear out the new drives.

it's more likely that there's some logic issue creating corruptions after 3 years than NAND write limitations. Example, OCZ's lineup, check the reviews on Newegg for their something-3.

 

[Kazukun]

Hey guys, so I got my parts in and had a friend help me set it up. here's what I'm running;

CPU: Intel 2500k
Case: Coolermaster Haf 922
Ram: Corsair vengeance Low profile 1600 2x4GB (8GB)
PSU: Corsair TX650
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68 UD3
SSD : Samsung 830 128GB
GPU: Geforce 9800GT

Now, the Geforce 9800gt is from my old system which I will be replacing with the 6970. My PSU should be able to handle it right?

I've been reading the reviews on the rams and also the ssd that they don't run at max speed right away and would need to set that in the bios. Is it hard to change it? From what I'm reading, the rams suppose to run at 1600 but it is set at 1333 and with the ssd it is suppose to read I believe at 600mbs but is set to 320mbs.

Is there anything else I should tweak or change and what are some useful programs being uses these days to keep my computer running at efficiency for years to come?

I do gotta say though, the system looks awesome and I am really enjoying it. Thanks so much for helping me out and saving me alot of money.

 

[Remobz]

The mobo's onboard Ethernet controller is good for a gigabit, it will be completely yawning at 25 Mb/s.

Would adding a Intel® PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter be better for an Ethernet card or is this not the case with the new Z68 mobos on the market these days.

When I build my new computer sometime this year I was wondering, if I should add an Intel Pro/1000 Network card or just stick with the onboard one from whatever brand mobo I pick at the time.

?????

 

[mfenn]

Now, the Geforce 9800gt is from my old system which I will be replacing with the 6970. My PSU should be able to handle it right?

Easily.

I've been reading the reviews on the rams and also the ssd that they don't run at max speed right away and would need to set that in the bios. Is it hard to change it? From what I'm reading, the rams suppose to run at 1600 but it is set at 1333 and with the ssd it is suppose to read I believe at 600mbs but is set to 320mbs.

For the SSD, make sure that you enable AHCI in the BIOS and have it plugged into a SATA 6Gb/s port for best performance. You need to read this KB article before you enable AHCI though.

Is there anything else I should tweak or change and what are some useful programs being uses these days to keep my computer running at efficiency for years to come?

Not really. Just don't do anything stupid like installing crapware (Norton AV, iTunes, etc.).

I do gotta say though, the system looks awesome and I am really enjoying it. Thanks so much for helping me out and saving me alot of money.

Glad you like it. 🙂

 

[mfenn]

Would adding a Intel® PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter be better for an Ethernet card or is this not the case with the new Z68 mobos on the market these days.

When I build my new computer sometime this year I was wondering, if I should add an Intel Pro/1000 Network card or just stick with the onboard one from whatever brand mobo I pick at the time.

?????

Is an Intel add-in NIC better than the onboard? Yes.
Does it make a damn bit of different for a machine in a SOHO environment? No.
Could the money be better spent elsewhere? Yes.