New firmware to turn regular vertex into turbo edition

[groberts101]

Hi guys, just wanted to drop a quick note telling others of the potential for OCZ to release a new firmware for the older Vertex drives that will allow it to reach higher speeds of the Turbo models.

Tony at OCZ has said that we need at least 100 votes to make it a viable option and allow release to the public.

If you have an older Indilinx controller based Vertex 1 this may be one of our last chances at improving the drives capability through firmware tweaks as this model will surely be EOL next year.

Especially usefull for those running raids as the cumulative effect could be quite large. Come take a look and cast your vote for the new firmware here.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...917-A-proposal...making-a-turbo-from-a-vertex

EDIT: here it is guys!
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?86437-Flashing-Vertex-to-Vertex-Turbo

 

[Broheim]

knowing OCZ they'll lower the performance and make you pay for another firmware update to get the performance you paid for in the first place...

 

[Emulex]

no duh. they will lower the lifespan for more speed; so you will buy new product from them soon.

 

[Voo]

no duh. they will lower the lifespan for more speed; so you will buy new product from them soon.

How should running the cache at faster frequencies magically influence the lifespan of a drive?

Nice bonus for the people with older drives no reason to paint everything black without a good reason.

 

[Burner27]

I love how this comes after OCZ buys Indilinx

 

[Broheim]

no reason to paint everything black without a good reason.

it's OCZ, that's a pretty good reason...

it'd be like Kim Jong-il signing a peace treaty with south Korea, it sounds good but you know he's gonna blow your ass up the second you're not looking.

 

[Voo]

it's OCZ, that's a pretty good reason...

it'd be like Kim Jong-il signing a peace treaty with south Korea, it sounds good but you know he's gonna blow your ass up the second you're not looking.

And like really every analogy in the computing area, totally flawed.. but then the absence of cars is a total plus.

Technical reasons how increasing the clock of the cache should lower the life time of the drive are most welcome, the only risk I see is that the cache can't run at the higher speeds and will have revert back to the basic version, but other than that..

 

[groberts101]

LOL. Bunch of OZC haters, eh? I've had more than 40 so far and still have 14 in all my machines(6 V2's on this one alone) and all were/are flawless. Not everyone has that experience(which can be said of other mfgrs as well), but I've been fortunate. Having top line hardware doesn't hurt compatibility either.

I buy equipment from a performance standpoint. Not based on what someones political or religious views are and was just trying to share for those that may have these Indilinx based drives.

Free upgrades are always nice(although if I payed more for a Turbo model initially I would probably be a little put off by it) and I'll take it for my 8 other drives. Would be especially nice for those using raidcards running wider arrays.

Would be like saying.. "They charged me too much for my car in the firstplace and then the transmission needed to be replaced!.. so why would I want to let them upgrade my engine for free?". Ummm.. tough one. Because it's... FREE?

sorry Voo.. couldn't resist the car analogy as I'm a gearhead and you baited me there. lol

and FYI. If the drives ARM/nand will not support the firmware.. it will simply not allow the flash to happen.

 

[Broheim]

I'm glad you didn't get screwed over, but a lot of people did...

I never hated OCZ before the vertx 2 fiasco, I just went elsewhere for my hardware needs, but what they did is completely unforgivable in my book.

as for the firmware update for vertex 1, it's great for the people who have the drive but a pitiful attempt at saving face.

 

[PowerYoga]

Um no, the wave of hate for OCZ because of their recent bait and switch on the 24nm v2s. It's nice you were lucky with your own v2s, but if you did half a second of search you'd find a bunch of posts about their shady practices.

 

[taltamir]

I honestly don't see anything wrong with this move, its a genuine improvement given to their oldest customers for free. I think they just trying to be "the nice company" for a little bit for some positive PR... to offset some recent negative PR.
A lot of computing companies have done shady things in the past and customers rightly vote with their dollar, that OCZ now starts to care about their image is a good sign, maybe that will keep them in line in the future.

 

[Voo]

Um no, the wave of hate for OCZ because of their recent bait and switch on the 24nm v2s. It's nice you were lucky with your own v2s, but if you did half a second of search you'd find a bunch of posts about their shady practices.

And it helps absolutely nobody to drag this into every other post. If you want to discuss their 25nm disk fiasco, you're free to do so in one of the several threads about that topic, but I think we're all old enough to judge things rationally.. otherwise we'd have to derail every thread about Intel because OCZ is nothing more than the lowest amateur compared to their shady business practices of the past.

It's a nice move that won't harm anyone and something other manufacturer's could actually quite improve upon.

 

[taltamir]

otherwise we'd have to derail every thread about Intel because OCZ is nothing more than the lowest amateur compared to their shady business practices of the past.

Intel, AMD, nVidia... They all have their shady history. Although history =! present. AMD cleaned up its act and has been "mr. niceguy TM" since the intel core2 architecture started wiping the floor with it. It even went and put out all the specs needed for a fully open source linux driver for all their hardware. And lately intel has been rather subdued (what with 7 countries rushing in to fine them for billions to help pay for rising national debts; note that the supposed victims never saw a dime).

If OCZ wants to "turn a new leaf" so to speak, excellent. I will watch carefully to make sure they stick to it, but I hope they mean it and have learned their lesson about trying to screw their customers. This current move seems to genuinely positive. Its even overly generous, they are basically giving people free upgrades which those people have done nothing to earn.

 

[Fedaykin311]

Hi guys, just wanted to drop a quick note telling others of the potential for OCZ to release a new firmware for the older Vertex drives that will allow it to reach higher speeds of the Turbo models.

Tony at OCZ has said that we need at least 100 votes to make it a viable option and allow release to the public.

If you have an older Indilinx controller based Vertex 1 this may be one of our last chances at improving the drives capability through firmware tweaks as this model will surely be EOL next year.

Especially usefull for those running raids as the cumulative effect could be quite large. Come take a look and cast your vote for the new firmware here.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...917-A-proposal...making-a-turbo-from-a-vertex

I'd prefer they release a firmware that makes mine work without suffering from fatal data corruption, because even "normal" speed is better than non-working.

(I've RMAd it twice and they refuse to refund my money despite the drive not working in several machines and all other drives, including other SSDs, working just fine in those same machines)

 

[Emulex]

sorry man sandforce and indilinx failure rates are far higher than intel. even intel x25-v. keep trying OCZ - maybe you'll win back some AT'ers but not this way.

 

[Fedaykin311]

sorry man sandforce and indilinx failure rates are far higher than intel. even intel x25-v. keep trying OCZ - maybe you'll win back some AT'ers but not this way.

Not just failure rates, but compatability issues. Intel just does a lot better job with QA/QC.

Nothing like buying a $350 Vertex (2 years ago) that isn't even a good paperweight!

 

[ctk1981]

Thanks for the heads up, I have an older vertex drive that I wouldnt mind upgrading. Of course, I might have to actually upgrade to the newest FW....I'm still on some old stuff that doesnt even support trim. That was my biggest gripe owning a OCZ drive, the constant destructive FW upgrades....not to mention the amount of people that bricked their drive doing FW upgrades also.

 

[amdhunter]

Signed. I had 1 issue with my Vertex with bad sectors showing up/data corruption, but after doing a firmware downgrade to 1.0 all the way up to 1.6 it's been flawless for months.

I am about to upgrade to a newer SSD, so I don't mind giving this a shot.

 

[groberts101]

I'd prefer they release a firmware that makes mine work without suffering from fatal data corruption, because even "normal" speed is better than non-working.

(I've RMAd it twice and they refuse to refund my money despite the drive not working in several machines and all other drives, including other SSDs, working just fine in those same machines)

they have had it for some time now. Called 1.6 destructive flash and gets rid of corruption based issues while also allowing older firmware drives to be dierctly flashed to the latest revision in one quick step.

Helps to go to a mfgrs site when you are having issues with thier hardware.

 

[amdhunter]

they have had it for some time now. Called 1.6 destructive flash and gets rid of corruption based issues while also allowing older firmware drives to be dierctly flashed to the latest revision in one quick step.

Helps to go to a mfgrs site when you are having issues with thier hardware.

Yep. I had to use the destructive flash and I've been flawless since.

 

[groberts101]

Here it is guys. Free speed upgrades are always nice.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?86437-Flashing-Vertex-to-Vertex-Turbo