"New" E6300 vs. E7X00

[pdawg1717]

I have an "old" E6300 currently but will be moving that to my HTPC so I want a replacement for my main PC but still use the same motherboard...it's an Abit IP35-E and it can take any of these three:

E7x00 with R0 stepping
E5x00 C0 or E0 stepping
E6300 (2.8Ghz one) with R0 stepping

I could get my "old" E6300 to 400fsb (3.2Ghz) at v1.365 no problem...virtualization is not critical...

At Fry's the E7400 is $24 more than the new E6300...E6300 is $24 more than the E5200...

 

[o1die]

Newegg has the e8400 open box for $126.99, which is only a few dollars more than the e7400. But by the time you read this, it may be sold out.

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: o1die
Newegg has the e8400 open box for $126.99, which is only a few dollars more than the e7400. But by the time you read this, it may be sold out.

You are right...it is gone already

 

[Lonyo]

Personally I'd grab the E5200.
Obviously YMMV but my E5200 manages 3.4GHz with sub 1.2v and obviously due to the lower FSB, RAM speed is less of an issue. The E6300 and E7300's are asking for more from the RAM and NB potentially and the 5's are solid.

 

[faxon]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Personally I'd grab the E5200.
Obviously YMMV but my E5200 manages 3.4GHz with sub 1.2v and obviously due to the lower FSB, RAM speed is less of an issue. The E6300 and E7300's are asking for more from the RAM and NB potentially and the 5's are solid.

yea it really will lol. my e5200 (release stepping) wouldn't do 3.4GHz @ 1.4v, and it only does 3.2 @ 1.38v cpu-z stable lol

ed: you will probably get better mileage with an e7x00 chip on average though. they have 7x00s binned at 3.06ghz now, and at the same frequency they will have higher average performance due to the larger cache. i have seen plenty of people getting 4ghz OCs out of their E7x00 chips now that their yields have improved to the point where the e8200 and 8300 are no longer manufactured, and the price difference is marginal at best. just make sure you get an up to date stepping and you should be good to go

 

[formulav8]

The e7200 I had definitely oced better than the e5200 (M0 step I think) I have now. I'm having a hard time keeping the 5200 stable @ 3.3ghz even with voltage increases. The e7200 was able to get to 3.8ghz with voltage increases. And this is using the exact same mobo and a much better cpu cooler.

Anyways, what reallys stinks is Intel was using VT as a marketing ploy and all of us with e5xxx and the orginal e7xxx(I think) won't be able to enjoy the very nice VT Windows 7 features now.

Unlike Intel, AMD actually included VT in ALL of their CPU's starting from the very first AM2 chips from the lowly Sempron to the X2's and Phenoms.

To bad I didn't find out about the new Win7 VT features much earlier or I would have definitely shunned Intel in the price range I was at then.

Blah to Intel I say. Just my humble little opinion.


Jason

 

[RikHollis]

One thing to keep in mind is that these are all Wolfdale processors, so Intel is basically marketing:

E7xxx = 1066 FSB, fully functional L2 cache (3 MB), yes/no VT depending on stepping

E6300 = 1066 FSB with 2/3 the cache (2 MB) and VT turned on

E5200 = 800 FSB with 2/3 the cache (2 MB) and no hope in hell of VT

AMD got tons of bad press for their binning of Quads down to 3 and 2 cores, but Intel just rolls right along with these 'niche' cpu's that we think are the hottest thing since sliced bread right up until they release the next niche up and our muffin turns to burnt toast. (Yeah, you can tell I have an E5300 right? )

Short answer, if contemplating the E5xxx through E7xxx series, buy the best Wolfdale you can afford.

 

[faxon]

Originally posted by: RikHollis
One thing to keep in mind is that these are all Wolfdale processors, so Intel is basically marketing:

E7xxx = 1066 FSB, fully functional L2 cache (3 MB), yes/no VT depending on stepping

E6300 = 1066 FSB with 2/3 the cache (2 MB) and VT turned on

E5200 = 800 FSB with 2/3 the cache (2 MB) and no hope in hell of VT

AMD got tons of bad press for their binning of Quads down to 3 and 2 cores, but Intel just rolls right along with these 'niche' cpu's that we think are the hottest thing since sliced bread right up until they release the next niche up and our muffin turns to burnt toast. (Yeah, you can tell I have an E5300 right? )

Short answer, if contemplating the E5xxx through E7xxx series, buy the best Wolfdale you can afford.

btw intel is bringing VT to their entire CPU lineup with the next stepping update for these lower end CPUs, in both dual and quad varriants

 

[Perplx]

Yesterday I put in a E6300 in my computer and it's clocked at 3.8GHz at 1.38V, I needed VT and E7xxx is just 1 more MB of cache for for $24 which doesn't make much of an impact.