New copy of resume.

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Lifer
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Well, I finally just bit the bullet and did some tweaking, reformatting, etc.

Link (the newest and final one) - there is at least one tense error that I see, along with a useless sentence under the "CSR" heading (the "shift lead" thing, meh, I was tired). There we go.
 

nitsuj3580

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should probably throw your current GPA at U of W on there or at least your current GPA for your major.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
should probably throw your current GPA at U of W on there or at least your current GPA for your major.

Damn. I knew that would come up eventually.
 

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Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
should probably throw your current GPA at U of W on there or at least your current GPA for your major.

Yep Agreed. Especially if you have no real work experience.
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
My first question would be, "What can you actually do?" :)

The only thing I have any remotely extensive experience in is conflict resolution/mediation. Any sort of personnel work would be easy for me.
 

nitsuj3580

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Originally posted by: Descartes
My first question would be, "What can you actually do?" :)

good point, on your old resume you list some of your skills in computers. you don't really do that on your new resume
 

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Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
Originally posted by: Descartes
My first question would be, "What can you actually do?" :)

good point, on your old resume you list some of your skills in computers. you don't really do that on your new resume

Because on my old one, I was planning on "doing something" with computers. My main focus now isn't.
 

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My thoughts (I read the PDF version, I hope it is the same).
1) The objective really isn't clear - it could apply to almost any job at almost any company. It would be best to tailor this to a specific job at each company you apply to (yes you'll need to make several versions). To me it just reads like boring fluff, and that isn't a good first impression.
2) In the experience section the flow is hard to understand. At first glance my mind grouped everything under the bold headlines - but that is false, it was meant to group everything under the date/job/location headline. For example it appears like the "2003-Present Dept of applied Mathematics Seattle WA" line belongs to the "Community Assistant/Resisdent Assistant" group.
3) Why so much white space right under Objective/Experience/Education/Award headlines? It makes the rest so cramped and harder to read. (Yes I see this is since your interests/activities headline is so long, but you could put this on two lines).
4) Why does the experience section use bold to separate the topics but the education section doesn't? It just doesn't flow right if you aren't consistant.
5) Honestly I don't think many jobs care about the highschool anymore. The rule of thumb is that they are only interested in your last job/last school level.
6) If you put highschool GPA, and community college GPA, but not Washington GPA it looks like you must have done really bad at Washington. Put all three GPAs or none at all.
7) Most of your interests/activities are quite unimpressive. You volunteered on just one day and claim that as an interest/activity? Same goes with the hall floor representative. At my dorm, that meant ~5 hours of work a year. Not something to brag about. The last thing you want an employer to think is "unimpressive". I'd rather it be blank than have something unimpressive.
8) I think a skills section may be useful - what useful things can you bring to the job that other applicants won't have.
 

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Bump. :Q

PM luvly if she is around, she offers decent advice.

Edit
For your experience, wouldnt it be a better idea to have the job title above the place, address, and date?
It doesn't make sense where you put the bold.
 

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dullard - thanks for the help! Those are some very constructive criticisms.

Yeah, the "objective" part is boring. I've never written one before and I realize that it's necessary to write a separate one for each company I apply for.
 

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Whoa. Resume wizard seems to be the big flaw in the whole thing. It wastes so much valuable space.

To be brutally honest with you, I look at that I have to turn my head. I don't even get to the point of reading what is on it because it's just so... gross.


-"An account management position in an organization where excellent interpersonal skills, superior sales ability and enthusiastic customer relations would be needed." First off, that's not really a complete thought. What about that position? Oh, you mean you want it? because you didn't say that. Drop everything after "organization" and then put something about where you want it to take you. To obtain a position in a growing company that uses my skills as a(a) (job title) that will further my career as a(n) (eg. account manager)
-You have things divided by tables that should fit together better (experience), this is fouled up because your education is in a totally different format, (having them all squished into one table... ) and it makes things like being ranked number one out of 438 students unimportant.
-For your education, you don't have enough space where need be. I had to think for a moment whether the 4.0 was for the 2nd or 3rd school.
-Your job descriptions take too long to read, and that's if I even get there because the way they are listed is really ugly.
-Your contact information is so obscure and in the wrong place that it makes children want to cry.
-"Intrests and Activties" only has activities listed... so if you don't have any intrests there, you should take the word out


Basically put, re-do the resume without the stupid wizard. People will look at it and not only know you used a wizard, but see that the you let the wizard do a bad job. Whenever you list something, stop and ask yourself "Why would anyone care?" and if you can't think up a good reason that correlates with your objective, then you should leave it out unless it's some crowing achievement that you can't bear to leave off.


I know I took the brutally honest thing a little out there... but you'll thank me when you have an office WITH A WINDOW!!! WEEE! ;)
 

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Thanks for the honesty. This is the first major redesign I've done of my resume in five years, so I'm a little lazy and a little reluctant to change something I've grown used to. However, it has to be done eventually. I'm doing one in Word right now without a wizard. I'll see what I can do.
 

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Lifer
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Okay, nuts to this, I'm using a template. I am curious, however, as to the template I should use.

I kind of like this one, can anyone pre-critique this layout and make sure it's reasonable?
 

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I dont know what your finincial condition is but if there is any way to pay get it done by a professional. It will pay off in the long run.

The first thing to remember is that the co that your applying to probably get tons of these and really just glance at the first paragraph or so unless something really grabs their eye, you have to have a good punch right at the beginning of the paper.

Bleep
 

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Originally posted by: Bleep
I dont know what your finincial condition is but if there is any way to pay get it done by a professional. It will pay off in the long run.

The first thing to remember is that the co that your applying to probably get tons of these and really just glance at the first paragraph or so unless something really grabs their eye, you have to have a good punch right at the beginning of the paper.

Bleep

How expensive can that be? If it's < $500, I might be willing to pay for it. I have a slightly different version that I've tried to customize to the best of my ability.

The difficult thing is that I really don't have any work experience in any one field. I want to eventually work in tax law or maybe accounting (keep in mind that this is after an additional 3 years of law school and two years in an MBA/Masters program), but nothing I have currently is relevent. So for now I am relegated to listing general work experience.

What can I put in an objective statement?

"I am a motivated, intelligent person with excellent interpersonal skills who is looking for a position in which I can utilize my existing skills while simultaneously allowing me further my knowledge and experience in financial economics."

*shrug*

For a resume of this type, would it be to my advantage to list activities, or is that rather useless?

Link to what I have so far. (be sure to view it in Print Preview, gets rid of all the gridlines)
 

JoLLyRoGer

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Here is a look at my resume. Yes it's VERY long by comparison to most of your single page resume's but this is geared toward civilian defense jobs and this was made using one of CPOL's resume builders. I have a 1 page condensed version of this, but you want to make sure that you define your roll and responsibilities at each place of employment. I didn't see that in your old resume, although I did see that somewhat in your new one. You're free to take a look at mine, It may help you out with your overall flow. Not that mine is GREAT, I'm sure there are a lot of things I need to do to improve it.

Here is my 1 pager.
 

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Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Here is a look at my resume. Yes it's VERY long by comparison to most of your single page resume's but this is geared toward civilian defense jobs and this was made using one of CPOL's resume builders. I have a 1 page condensed version of this, but you want to make sure that you define your roll and responsibilities at each place of employment. I didn't see that in your old resume, although I did see that somewhat in your new one. You're free to take a look at mine, It may help you out with your overall flow. Not that mine is GREAT, I'm sure there are a lot of things I need to do to improve it.

Here is my 1 pager.

Thank you for your advice. I've updated the resume I am currently trying out, I believe I've gotten some of the formatting issues worked out. If I were to take back my real work history, and write descriptions of each job, I could easily take up three or four pages, if I included all my sub-positions, committees, awards, responsibilities, etc.

One of the things I am hoping to work in there somehow are the typical "overachiever" bullet points, Senate Page, Eagle Scout, etc, items that as a young adult are still relevent. I am curious if these things are even remotely relevent as a young professional, and if so, where they should be included on the resume.
 

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Some people can write their own resumes really well and some people can't. No offense, but it looks like you're the latter. Take it to a professional - it's worth it.

Oh, and make sure if you're sending it electronically that you do so in PDF format unless it's requested a different way. It's much more professional than a DOC.

 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Some people can write their own resumes really well and some people can't. No offense, but it looks like you're the latter. Take it to a professional - it's worth it.

Oh, and make sure if you're sending it electronically that you do so in PDF format unless it's requested a different way. It's much more professional than a DOC.

Which one did you look at? The PDF version or the one I just posted (near the bottom)?

I'm just using the doc format for now because it's more convenient for me to make quick updates and upload.
 

JoLLyRoGer

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OK, I updated that first link. I need to go back to school and learn that it's spelled gEOcities.com, not gOEcities.com. Sorry 'bout that.