New computer build won't load BIOS

lolwot

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Recently, I bought a barebones PC from mwave. The main components were an MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 motherboard with nVidia Geforce 6150 SE integrated graphics, an AMD Athlon II X2 245 CPU with heatsink/fan, a Logisys 480w power supply, a Gigabyte ATX case, and a 2 GB RAM chip. All of these parts were assembled before shipment, including thermal compound application, etc.

When I received the barebones computer, I added a Radeon HD 4770 graphics card, a 120 MM fan, a 2 GB RAM chip which was incidentally about twice as large as the other despite having the same specs, a 600w OCZ ModXStream Pro PSU, a Hitachi 1 TB hard drive, and an LG DVD Burner.

I had never reconfigured a computer before, but I thought that I took adequate precautions to protect the parts from ESD. I wore all non-synthetic materials, I laid the computer on a flat surface, and I touched the metal on the case and power supply frequently, if not constantly. I connected the DVD burner and HDD to the PSU with a daisy chain SATA cable and to the motherboard with separate SATA cables. I connected the graphics card to the PSU with a 6 pin molex cable. I connected the PSU to the motherboard with the 24 pin cable, and 4 pin CPU cable. I've checked to make sure that the RAM chips and graphics card are properly seated. And, I've tried connecting the computer to a functioning monitor with a VGA cable through both the integrated graphics output and the PCI express x16 graphics card output. Still, when I power on the computer, there is no video signal. All fans run including the CPU fan which, as far as I know, should indicate that the motherboard is receiving power, and the DVD drive is operational, but there are no BIOS error sounds, and the BIOS doesn't appear on screen. The power supply doesn't have a switch for changing voltage from 110-240 volts, so apparently that can't be the cause of this problem.

I've been trying to figure this out for a couple days now, and I'm starting to feel hopeless. I wanted to get this system up and running as soon as possible, so I'm reluctant to RMA. But, this computer won't be very useful as a doorstop, so if I can't find a solution soon, it might be my only option. I've already done some research about computers failing to POST, but it's still not clear to me how I should start...uh... troubleshooting. Would defective parts preclude a computer from booting, even if they aren't essential to the process? Should I try uninstalling the hard drive and DVD drive, to start? More importantly, are there any other factors I might have overlooked?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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You are trying to do too much at once. Do a minimal install outside the box with one stick of ram and no HDD or optical drive. Make sure the one stick of ram is in the correct slot for that configuration. Check the case connectors orientation to pin one. Look for the triangle embossed on each plug and do not depend on the cable labeling to tell you the correct orientation. Make sure any needed additional power connections to your 4770 are connected to the card.
 

pcgeek11

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Recently, I bought a barebones PC from mwave. The main components were an MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 motherboard with nVidia Geforce 6150 SE integrated graphics, an AMD Athlon II X2 245 CPU with heatsink/fan, a Logisys 480w power supply, a Gigabyte ATX case, and a 2 GB RAM chip. All of these parts were assembled before shipment, including thermal compound application,

Stop here> Don't add any components in yet.

Do you have a MB Speaker? If not get one the beep codes can save you a lot of time.

Try to boot with the pc configured the way it came. If it will not POST reset the BIOS IAW the motherboard manual. Then see if it will POST.

Check the beep codes it may tell you what is wrong.

If it does POST then start adding components until you locate the defective component.

Go slow and do One Thing at a time.
 

lolwot

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I removed the graphics card, additional RAM, hard drive, DVD burner, SATA cables, and PCI express cables, then cleared CMOS, but nothing seems to have changed. The fans still run, but the BIOS doesn't initiate.
 

RebateMonger

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I had something like this happen last week. The main problems turned out to be a failing video card (it was old and the fan didn't spin any more) and a dead CMOS battery.

The fix was a new video card, removing the CMOS battery, shorting out the CMOS pins, and inserting a new CMOS battery. Once entering the BIOS, I also had to disable the "Stop on All Errors" setting that the BIOS would default to when the CMOS was reset.
 

Daniel_Borne

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I just baught the exact same board and processor in a combo kit and have the exact symptoms lolwot has described. Prior to attempting to locate a solution ive already tried what MagnusTheBrewer has suggested and nothing has changed. Wondering if anyone has found a solution or has another idea to solve this? I've tried multiple working video cards(including pci and pci-e) switched the ram and tried several different sticks. The computer has a speaker and beeps only when the ram is in the wrong order. Anyone help is much appreciated Thanks.
 

jtisgeek

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If you have a motherboard speaker on that board pull all the ram power on system should start beeping cause no memory if it doesn't most likely bad motherboard or the motherboard doesn't support the cpu.
 

daveybrat

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According to MSI's website, that cpu is only supported by version 2.4 bios that was released on March 10th, 2010.

I'm betting that since both of you have the same no post problem that you have version 2.3 or older bios revision on that motherboard.

That's why you are getting no post, because that is an older motherboard chipset and needs to be updated first. Problem is that in order to do that, you'd have to find an older AM2 cpu to install to get video/post, and then flash the bios, then put the X2 245 back in.
 

Daniel_Borne

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I fixed my problem by replacing the RAM. Apperently, the RAM i bought was no good....i put another stick from another computer and it started up fine. I'm not sure if this is lolwot's problem also, but i would recommend him to try different ram
 

UHChibi

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Sorry to necro an old thread, but it pretty much matches my system exactly.

Just picked up this MB today so I can keep my PC running until I figure what Ill build next.
Was wondering what lolwot ended up doing to get a solution.
If I dont have access to another PC that I can use to flash BIOS, does anyone think that is something the computer store I bought it from would do? (MicroCenter)

If there no other alternative?
 

mlc

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did you not read the previous post.. about the ram being bad or incompatible? Try some different ram, if you can first...