New Celerons in old BX boards?

[peemo]

1) Will the new Celeron 1.2GHz .13u chip (256MB L2) work in BX boards or will it need the 815E - bstep like the Tualatin?

2) Will the new Celeron 1.1GHz .18u chip (128MB L2) work in BX boards without bios upgrades, i.e. even iof the bios settings only go up to, say, 850MHz will the 1.1GHz CPU work?

3) How much additional performance would the 1.2/1.1 Celerons provide vs PIII 700, 800, 1000 with 100MHz FSB (unoverclocked)?

Are these chips a new lease on life for older systems or a complete waste of time?

 

[Athlon4all]

1. No, that's Tualatin. Tualatin requires VIA 133T/266T/i815 B-Stepping
2. Yes, because Intel CPU's are multiplier locked. But the BIOS must support Coppermine's
3. A 1.1 Celeron probably would beat slightly the PIII 800, but the 1GHz PIII, would kick.

P.S. If you want a new CPU, get a K7S5A+Duron 800+HSF for $120-130

 

[peemo]

Thanks, Athlon4all

1) I thought the new Celeron 1.2 might have the same requirements as Tualatin because it is also a .13u chip and may use lower voltage than the PIII .18u chips.

3) Duron + HSF + motherboard + Power supply - I'd rather pop in a new Intel CPU now and keep my basic machine at least until the end of 2002.

 

[bacillus]

peemo, while it's possible, it's a little expensive at present! 🙂

 

[Athlon4all]

I don't trust that solution bacillus. I'll trust it when I see it. And peemo, the 1.2 is Tualatin based, but the 1.1 is just a new steeping of Coppermine that allows it to get to 1.1GHz and thus it will run on BX boards.

 

[CZroe]

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[Athlon4all]

I'm not discrediting the company, but this is different. Here you're talking about more than an Interface conversion, Tualatin requires CHipset modifications so I will wait and see, but at the moment I wouldn't buy it

 

[peemo]

Thanks for the opinions.

I wouldn't buy a Powerleap solution based on the price and the number of issues reported through Powerleap's own support forums.

I might be interested in a Celeron 1.1GHz with 128MB L2 cache as an upgrade to my PIII 700 256MB L2 cache. Any idea what kind of performance increase I'd see?

Thanks

 

[EdipisReks]

256 MB of chache?!?!?!?!? are those super xeon's your talking about? seriously now, the 1.1 gHz celeron would be faster than your 700 mHz PIII, but a little overclocking would put your pIII well out of the reach of that 1.1 gHz celeron. i know plenty of people who have hit 933 or higher with their 700's. i would try that first.

--jacob

 

[peemo]

Thanks EdipisReks,

My bad.



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My PIII is cA2 stepping and starts to produce errors beyond about 770MHz despite the temperature being in the comfortable range. I could up the voltage and spend $60 on a good heat sink and fan but if that's half the cost of a faster CPU I'll go for the latter.