New Bulid Issue- All installs are acting weird (done 3 diff os's multiple times) HELP!

w3bby

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MSI Platinum X58 mobo
Intel I7 920
Patriot Viper 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Sapphire Radeon 4850

There are a fre different errors, all 'seem' related. I cant determine if its Hardware or Software.

Win Vista 64 Ult. Reboots during install and I need to start over as it doesnt complete.
WHEN it does complete windows will randomly reboot and go to thw "windows didnt shutdown correctly" screen. OR Windows will just lock up and I need to hard reboot.

Win 7 Beta did the same reboot during install so i didnt bother multiple attempts.

For the hell of it I tried a win XP pro install (x86) and I got a nice blue sceen o' death.
was a pci.sys errror - address f748e0bf base at f7487000, datestamp 3b7d855c THEN stop:0x0000007e (0xc0000005, oxf748e0bf, oxf78da208, 0xf78d9f08)

I cant really determine whats going on. Does anyone have an idea OR a way to narrow this down? Any heap would be GREATLY apprecited!

 

mechBgon

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Welcome to the Forums :) Those modules are spec'ed for 1.65 volts, whereas official DDR3 spec is only 1.5 volts, so it's probable that your motherboard is undervolting your RAM a little if it's still on AUTO. So as a starting point, go into the BIOS and manually set the memory voltage to 1.65-1.70 volts, and see if that makes a difference.
 

w3bby

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Thanks for the welcome and quick reply!!!
Do i need to play with the timings/ cas lat and suck as well? Am I trying to make ram the 1600 it is as opposed to auto making it 1333?
 

mechBgon

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For the time being, if you just set voltage and let the motherboard use the RAM's SPD for timings (meaning, just AUTO settings), that ought to answer the question of voltage starvation.

I'm not a mad-scientist overclocker, but I think attempting to run the RAM at 1600, above the CPU's bus speed of 1333, will cause latency issues that cancel out the theoretical advantage of the extra memory bandwidth. So I'd just let them both stay at 1333, or raise them both in a 1:1 ratio if you decide to overclock.

Changing the timings and CAS, command rate, and so forth is a sport to some of the people here, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not like "wow, now that my RAM's at 1T command rate, Crysis is totally smooooooth" or anything, so I just let the memory module's SPD-programmed settings handle that part, by leaving them on AUTO in the motherboard's BIOS. A pity they don't have voltage set up like that :confused:

Good luck with the experiment :)
 

GaryJohnson

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If you have a system that's automatically restarting, then you might want to disable "Automatic Restart": Vista & XP -> Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Startup and Recovery -> uncheck 'Automatically Restart'.

Might want to do a pass with memtest86+.
 

sonoma1993

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Originally posted by: w3bby
SPECS.
MSI Platinum X58 mobo
Intel I7 920
Patriot Viper 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Sapphire Radeon 4850

There are a fre different errors, all 'seem' related. I cant determine if its Hardware or Software.

Win Vista 64 Ult. Reboots during install and I need to start over as it doesnt complete.
WHEN it does complete windows will randomly reboot and go to thw "windows didnt shutdown correctly" screen. OR Windows will just lock up and I need to hard reboot.

Win 7 Beta did the same reboot during install so i didnt bother multiple attempts.

For the hell of it I tried a win XP pro install (x86) and I got a nice blue sceen o' death.
was a pci.sys errror - address f748e0bf base at f7487000, datestamp 3b7d855c THEN stop:0x0000007e (0xc0000005, oxf748e0bf, oxf78da208, 0xf78d9f08)

I cant really determine whats going on. Does anyone have an idea OR a way to narrow this down? Any heap would be GREATLY apprecited!

for the windows vista install, are you using a oringnal windows vista disc or windows vista sp1? With the orignal Windows Vista install disc, at least for the 64bit version, the install will crash with more than 4GB of ram install.
 

w3bby

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Feb 1, 2009
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Its a sp1 disc.
Here is what I am coming up with...does this sound like the way to go??
would I be best suited getting RAM that is native to the board w/o needing oclocking? (1333 1.5 vs the 1600 1.65 I have)
If that is so would you have any recomendations? I was lucky enough to be able to send my ram back to newegg 'if' I want to.
OR should I figure out how to set this ram in the bois?? Would I gain anything by setting this right as opposed to 1333 ram?

ALSO why would post show the ram as 1066??

Thanks for all your help guys!!!
 

w3bby

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after setting the voltage to 1.65 and the timings to 8-8-8-24 all is stable.
Would I best suited keeping this DDR3-1600 / 8-8-8-24 / @1.65V ram OR Getting DDR3-1066 / 7-7-7-20 / @1.5V. I can do the swap to any ram for free.

I guess the 1066 is supposedly what is 'native' to the 17 processor. does it make a difference performance wise between the 2 when both are "stable'?