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polar2792

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Will be my first actual gaming rig. HP Pavillions doesn't cut it

1: Gaming and modding (Skyrim, Fallout 4, Gta 5) surfing, Netflix
2: ~800
3: USA
4: Amazon
5: Intel, ASUS, NVidia
6: no current parts
7:no OC
8:no monitor(use a TV not sure the resolution 1080p and 40 inch)
9: soon
10: windows 10

Edit: Forgot to add I would like a SSD for storing the OS
 
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Ken g6

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Looks like it's actually rather hard to get near $800 without including Newegg as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *OCZ Trion 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($307.49 @ Newegg)
Case: *Thermaltake Versa H24 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $808.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 14:14 EST-0500

i3 isn't the best processor, but it should be good enough to keep up with the 970 most of the time. It is one of the better processors for Skyrim. You could get an ASUS B150 mobo if you insist on ASUS, but I recommend a Z170 and using XMP on the RAM.
 
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polar2792

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Thanks for the help. With this build will I be able to upgrade to a i5 6500 in the future if I want? And do I need fans and thermal paste? Ultra noob here
 

UsandThem

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Thanks for the help. With this build will I be able to upgrade to a i5 6500 in the future if I want? And do I need fans and thermal paste? Ultra noob here

Most retail processors (like this i3) come with a heatsink that has thermal paste material pre-applied. Some cases come with fans, but you'll have to see which case you like and what it comes with. I have the case in my profile (R5), and it comes with two 140mm fans in it.

You can upgrade to a better processor in the future, but if I were you, I'd up my budget to 1k and get a lot better components. Sure, you might have to save a little longer, but you'd get a better CPU that will last years, faster and bigger SSD drive, etc.

Why pay for something that isn't going to do what you want it to do right off of the bat? Like Ken said, that i3 will keep up with the GTX 970 "most of the time". I'd increase my budget and get an i5 that you know will easily keep up with your video card.
 

Ken g6

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With this build will I be able to upgrade to a i5 6500 in the future if I want?
Yes, if you call that an upgrade. I'd aim for an i7 6700 myself. ;)

And do I need fans and thermal paste?
Included with the i3. I just put that chip in a build myself. :)

I'm still not really satisfied with the GPU I picked out for you. If you were willing to order from NCIX, I'd suggest this EVGA for $310 after rebate. Otherwise, I just spotted this Zotac for $305.
 

UsandThem

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Yes, if you call that an upgrade. I'd aim for an i7 6700 myself.

I would go that route personally as well, but I didn't want to shock him on a higher price too much. :)

I have found being around and building computers for 20 years, whenever I would buy something that was 'just good enough for now', I'd replace it not too long after I bought it.

Now, I build a new PC every 4-5 years and I buy the best mainstream (no crazy extreme ones) CPU I can get, and it works for me perfectly until it is time to build a new PC.
 

lehtv

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Definitely don't get a low end CX series unit. Also, Thermaltake's low end cases are very cheaply built - a $10-20 increase in case budget can make a huge difference in quality here.

An i3 is a weird choice for a GTX 970. This budget should include i5 in my opinion, even at the cost of the graphics card. It's much easier to just upgrade the graphics card later, and that makes sense too because graphics card performance evolves much faster than CPU performance these days. An i5 in 2 years will cost basically the same as an i5 today, and perform roughly the same too, so why delay the purchase for 2 years? On the other hand, a GTX 970 may seem like beast compared to $200 cards now - but you should be able to get GTX 970 level performance at $200 with NVIDIA Pascal by the end of the year.

I'd much rather spend a little more on the PSU, case and processor to ensure longevity. I'd also buy a 250GB SSD so it doesn't immediately run out of space the moment you install one bigger game on it (say, a modded Fallout 4...); 120GB SSD's also have much higher cost per gigabyte.

i5-6500 $193 after promo code EMCEFGK22
MSI Z170-A PRO $80 with free Steelseries Kinzu v3 mouse (which you can sell 'as new' for $25 if you don't need it)
2x4GB G.Skill NT DDR4-2400 $40
Sapphire R9 380 4GB Nitro $180 AR with free mouse pad (no idea if the mouse pad is good)
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB $70
Hitachi 1TB $42
EVGA 650 GQ $60 AR
Fractal Design Core 3300 $50
Windows 10 $94 @ amazon

= $809 AR + possible shipping

This is higher quality build, even though strictly speaking gaming performance isn't as good. The GPU should be the only thing you need to upgrade here for the next ~5 years (and the SSD, PSU and case should last even longer - probably RAM too, since DDR4 is new).

You can overclock the i5-6500 using BCLK (to be fair, the same applies to the i3 above). Should be able to do 4.3-4.4GHz without much fuss, which is a great way to improve CPU performance down the road - all you need to add is a normal 120mm tower cooler like the overrated (though competitively priced) 212 EVO.
 
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polar2792

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Not trying to step on no one's toes and I really appreciate everyone's time helping me. So if I up the budget to $1000 I could get a lot better machine? I'd rather do that, I don't have a preference for what store since I didn't get that Amazon card.

EDIT: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j8GLt6 how's this I tried
 
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UsandThem

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Not trying to step on no one's toes and I really appreciate everyone's time helping me. So if I up the budget to $1000 I could get a lot better machine? I'd rather do that, I don't have a preference for what store since I didn't get that Amazon card.

EDIT: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j8GLt6 how's this I tried

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/v72mYJ

$1034 (Minus $80 more in rebates) for a total of $954

**Edit** You won't need the Cooler Master heatsink/fan since the CPU comes with its own. So that is $25 you could put toward a secondary hard drive.
 
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