New build. Looking for input

[AdamR1028]

This lead me nowhere but a headache. Ill just post in individual sections about the specific parts I was looking for user experience with....

 

[J-Acito]

If would help to know what you plan to use this setup for (CAD/gaming/home office/etc.).

 

[AdamR1028]

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[escrow4]

Really bad idea to go AMD for a budget gaming box. The CPU performance is laughable compared to a modern i5 and AM3+ is a dead obsolete socket. I'd get an i5 4670 + H97 board if you are not overclocking, 4670K + Z97 if you are with at least 8GB RAM.

EDIT: Seeing as you've bought them, too late really.

 

[AdamR1028]

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[mistersprinkles]

I should mention now im not interested in any intel fanboy comments of how it performs better.

People are only trying to help you. You think the guy telling you Intel is better makes him a fanboy? If I show you benchmarks proving him right, does that make me a fanboy too?

Intel>AMD Coke>Pepsi. That's just the way it is.

FX6300 is no better, clock for clock, than a 1055T. How old is that CPU? Exactly. That's all he's trying to communicate to you.

You're going to want to push that CPU to about 4.4 Ghz so that it isn't a bottleneck for your system. Luckily you didn't get a very powerful GPU so the bottleneck shouldn't be too bad.

 

[AdamR1028]

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[Cerb]

What's the actual budget (you have a $600 paperweight described in the OP, and I don't see the rest of it)?

 

[AdamR1028]

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[MongGrel]

People are only trying to help you. You think the guy telling you Intel is better makes him a fanboy? If I show you benchmarks proving him right, does that make me a fanboy too?

Intel>AMD Coke>Pepsi. That's just the way it is.

FX6300 is no better, clock for clock, than a 1055T. How old is that CPU? Exactly. That's all he's trying to communicate to you.

You're going to want to push that CPU to about 4.4 Ghz so that it isn't a bottleneck for your system. Luckily you didn't get a very powerful GPU so the bottleneck shouldn't be too bad.

+1

 

[Cerb]

Why do people insist on acting like bitchs and trolling lol. For the price to performance ratio I would love to see what you guys are putting together for intel. Bahhh sheep bahhh

You spec out a non-functional PC, with an ambiguous budget, and intent to OC, but the idealized budget is awfully low for OCing. We can't put anything together without knowing what you want to, and can, spend. Currently, the only figure in your OP is one that is too low to pay for a working PC that you have parts listed for.

 

[nsafreak]

Why do people insist on acting like bitchs and trolling lol. For the price to performance ratio I would love to see what you guys are putting together for intel. Bahhh sheep bahhh

Ok, for somebody accusing others of being fanboys that isn't exactly a neutral comment. Folks made the mistake of thinking that you were trying to optimize a build that you hadn't purchased yet. Since you've already purchased it I will state that you will want to overclock the CPU as much as possible so that it doesn't hold back a GPU. And since you asked what we're putting together for Intel for a similar price, here's what I would have recommended:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($203.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $639.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-16 21:11 EDT-0400

If you're wondering, yes it beats the FX-6300 you purchased in pretty much every area, in many cases by orders of magnitude. I'm all for competition and I really hope that AMD produces a CPU that can better compete with Intel, it helps everybody. As it stands now it takes their flagship CPU overclocked to take on Intel's mid tier CPU (the i5) and even then the most it can typically hope for is a break even.

 

[AdamR1028]

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[mfenn]

Moderator part:

Generally you should ask for advice before you purchase parts. If you've already bought and developed an attachment to the parts, then why post about them at all? You're either going to get useless "great choices man!!" replies or you're going to get upset when people disagree with your choices.

There is absolutely no call for cursing at people and attacking them when they suggested that you might have gotten a better value by doing things a bit differently.

Normal user part:

On a technical level, I agree with the other posters here. There's no reason to spend a bunch of money on a fancy motherboard that adds nothing to the performance of the machine. AM3 (and 1150 for that matter), are both dead-end platforms with no significant processor upgrades on the horizon. So the mobo isn't really an investment for the future, it's just a bunch of features that you're not using. So yes, you absolutely should save money on the motherboard and reallocate those funds to a part that affects performance (such as the CPU or GPU).

I also really disagree with the choice of buying an FX-6300 with the hopes of upgrading it later. Any AM3 processor is going to be a fairly marginal upgrade from the FX-6300. The whole system starts looking bad from a price/performance point of view when you add in the sunk costs for temporary parts.

 

[AdamR1028]

I removed all of my posts and Ill just post in the motherboard and cpu sections individually. I was not looking for advice on what to purchase or intel vs amd fight and I mentioned that. But instead of just avoiding the thread people had to troll. I expected people who have the same or similar setups to comment on their experiences. Guess Ive been away to long and cant mention amd nowadays. Agree or disagree with the socket theres obviously a market and use for it.

 

[mistersprinkles]

I removed all of my posts and Ill just post in the motherboard and cpu sections individually. I was not looking for advice on what to purchase or intel vs amd fight and I mentioned that. But instead of just avoiding the thread people had to troll. I expected people who have the same or similar setups to comment on their experiences. Guess Ive been away to long and cant mention amd nowadays. Agree or disagree with the socket theres obviously a market and use for it.

People who know 100X more than you are trying to help you. The only fanboy in this thread is you. I will never help you again, on this forum or any other. I'm remembering your username.
Who's trolling in this thread? YOU. You're calling people sheep and saying "baaah" to them. Are you nuts or something?

 

[escrow4]

I removed all of my posts and Ill just post in the motherboard and cpu sections individually. I was not looking for advice on what to purchase or intel vs amd fight and I mentioned that. But instead of just avoiding the thread people had to troll. I expected people who have the same or similar setups to comment on their experiences. Guess Ive been away to long and cant mention amd nowadays. Agree or disagree with the socket theres obviously a market and use for it.

I doubt anyone here has a similar AMD setup because AMD really is that slow. Its a fact. Its not mentioning AMD its the fact that AMD offers nothing that Intel can't beat. By a large margin to boot. Looking at AMD's most recent cutbacks (again) if there is a market its rapidly shrinking.

 

[AdamR1028]

Never asked for anyone to tell me how amd and intel compare. I already did my research. I dont care about benchmark numbers and im not gonna notice the difference for my usage. I spent $200 on my mobo/cpu combo and from my research that was pretty damn cheap for what it offers. Its not like I cant sell it within the next year for a small loss if something else comes along. But for the time being the 6300 will be good enough for my needs and I could really use the mobos audio.

People are responding like I blew $600 on a bunch junk when the only questionable items are the mobo/cpu which I already explained. The biggest portion of the cost was the gpu and ssd which I got an amazing deal on the gpu if its not a dud. My final cost on it will be $130 and if the rebate comes through it drops to $100. Is $200 for a mid range cpu and pretty nice mobo features really THAT big of a deal to start all of this crap over? Already said the only thing im a fanboy of is my money... Never denied intel is faster performs better yada yada. But below the 200 price point I cant justify the use of intel and I dont have 400+ to dump in a nice intel cpu/mobo.

Feel free to send me some money and Ill be more than happy to take a step up the performance ladder 🙂

Also I was unaware everyone on anandtech forums stopped using amd since when did this happen?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Also I was unaware everyone on anandtech forums stopped using amd since when did this happen?

LOL. There are some AMD die-hards in the CPU forum. And AMD does have a few miniscule, shrinking, niches.

But in general, AMD products are becoming pretty piss-poor compared to Intel's. I have high hopes for their new "Zen" architecture, which hopefully the company will last long enough to release, but with their shrinking R&D budget, and shrinking market share, I wish them good luck.

Back in their Phenom / Athlon II days, they were competitive. Now, they're not so much.

Intel's overclockable Pentium G3258 is putting a huge hurt on AMD's APUs. And with Intel's "Contra Revenue" program (bribing mfgs to use their chips), AMD is left with little chance in the tablet market to gain design wins.

Sure, AMD's in Consoles, but we're hearing stories left and right that the consoles aren't powerful enough.

I've had issues with my AMD rigs. I've got a couple of Thuban X6 rigs, those are alright. But my C-60 Netbook, and my two C-70 Nettops, and an E1-2500 AIO, are all really pathetic in the CPU dept. Not enough power to run Skype and do other things at the same time.

I built my friend an A6-5400K APU rig. I didn't know it at the time, but that's barely the speed of an E8400, which you can get for $20-30 on ebay.

AMD's recent-generation chips can't even beat Intel's chips from five generations ago.

That's just the way things are. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Bulldozer, as an architecture, really is just that bad.

 

[mfenn]

This thread has run its course. There's nothing to be gained from a pointless AMD vs Intel discussion now that the OP has expressed that he is not interested in specific build advice and removed the relevant information.

mfenn
General Hardware Moderator