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New build for 3d rendering and games

wizofboz

Junior Member
Hi everyone, I am looking to come up with a new build primarily for 3d rendering and gaming. This will be my first build, so any advice is appreciated.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Primary usage: 3d modeling and rendering on linux using blender and yafaray (cpu-only renderer), 2d image editing using GIMP.
Secondary usage: games on windows, mostly sp fps games like crysis, CoD, GTA, etc., and strategy games like total war, civ, etc.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
$1500-$1600

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
USA

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
Intel/Nvidia, more out of necessity than fanboyism

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
keyboard, mouse, monitor

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Probably a mild OC, don't want to push the ivy chip too hard

8. What resolution will you be using?
1920x1200

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.

1 week max, sooner if possible

X. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?
Need win7


Here is a preliminary build I came up with:

CPU Intel Core i7 3770K $330
Cooler CM Hyper 212 Evo $31
MOBO ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $143
PSU SeaSonic S12II 620W $80
RAM G.SKILL Value 16GB (2x8GB) $70
GPU Gigabyte GTX 670 $400
SSD Crucial M4 256GB $210
HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB $110
DVD Asus 24x DVD burner $20
Case Fractal Design R4 $110
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit $100
Total: $1604


In addition to your advice, I have some questions:

1. I selected RAM in 2x8 modules to leave the possibility of going to 32GB for my linux apps. I know the home version of windows limits you to 16GB but I would likely not need more than that for windows apps anyway, would windows home be able to boot on a machine with 32GB and use only 16GB? Or do you suggest just going for the pro version? Anyway, I don't know when or even if I would increase the RAM.

2. I intend to have windows and linux share the SSD on different partitions, but I don't know if this is an advisable strategy. Is it ok to use separate partitions on an SSD?

3. Since this is my first build I am not too knowledgeable on setting up a system for optimal cooling, is there anything I should do to improve the default setup on the R4? For example, I am tempted to add a third fan for front intake.


Thanks in advance for your help. 🙂
 
Since you're only looking for a mild OC, I'd recommend forgetting about OC altogether. Buy a Xeon. At 3.3-3.7GHz with HT, it's practically the same as a stock i7-3770K for almost $100 less. Overclocking the i7 would require you to spend a lot more on the CPU, $30 on the CPU cooling and also more on the motherboard. Not worth it for just a couple hundred MHz more.

The Xeon lacks integrated graphics but you're going to be using a discrete graphics card anyway.

CPU
Xeon E3-1230 V2 $239
Cooler Stock cooling is fine for the Xeon.
Mobo Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP $80. Since gaming is a secondary thing, you don't need SLI compatibility. This board should have all you need and is officially compatible with Xeons.
PSU Seasonic S12II 520W $60 AP. A quality 500W unit is enough to future-proof. The Xeon consumes less than 70W, the 670 consumes around 150W-170W.
RAM Kingston 1600MHz $73
GPU Good. Gigabyte 670 $400
SSD Samsung 830 256GB $200
HDD, DVD, Case and OS All good. $110 + 20 + 110 + 100.

= $1402 + shipping

Is it ok to use separate partitions on an SSD?
Sure

3. Since this is my first build I am not too knowledgeable on setting up a system for optimal cooling, is there anything I should do to improve the default setup on the R4? For example, I am tempted to add a third fan for front intake.
Since you're using pretty low power components, cooling isn't terribly important, but adding a third fan on the intake is a good idea since the included fan controller can handle up to three fans and you get positive air pressure that way (keeps out the dust)
 
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Since you're only looking for a mild OC, I'd recommend forgetting about OC altogether. Buy a Xeon. At 3.3-3.7GHz with HT, it's practically the same as a stock i7-3770K for almost $100 less. Overclocking the i7 would require you to spend a lot more on the CPU, $30 on the CPU cooling and also more on the motherboard. Not worth it for just a couple hundred MHz more.

The Xeon lacks integrated graphics but you're going to be using a discrete graphics card anyway.

CPU
Xeon E3-1230 V2 $239
Cooler Stock cooling is fine for the Xeon.
Mobo Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP $80. Since gaming is a secondary thing, you don't need SLI compatibility. This board should have all you need and is officially compatible with Xeons.
PSU Seasonic S12II 520W $60 AP. A quality 500W unit is enough to future-proof. The Xeon consumes less than 70W, the 670 consumes around 150W-170W.
RAM Kingston 1600MHz $73
GPU Good. Gigabyte 670 $400
SSD Samsung 830 256GB $200
HDD, DVD, Case and OS All good. $110 + 20 + 110 + 100.

= $1402 + shipping

Sure

Since you're using pretty low power components, cooling isn't terribly important, but adding a third fan on the intake is a good idea since the included fan controller can handle up to three fans and you get positive air pressure that way (keeps out the dust)

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

1. I selected RAM in 2x8 modules to leave the possibility of going to 32GB for my linux apps. I know the home version of windows limits you to 16GB but I would likely not need more than that for windows apps anyway, would windows home be able to boot on a machine with 32GB and use only 16GB? Or do you suggest just going for the pro version? Anyway, I don't know when or even if I would increase the RAM.

Windows 7 HP will boot fine on a system with more than 16GB of RAM, it just won't recognize anything above 16GB.

2. I intend to have windows and linux share the SSD on different partitions, but I don't know if this is an advisable strategy. Is it ok to use separate partitions on an SSD?

It'll work fine. I recommend partitioning the drive beforehand with a Linux partitioning tool, otherwise you will have to fight with Windows' stupid default partitioning. Make sure to start your first partition a power of 2 number of megabytes from the beginning of the disk so that the alignment will work out.

Then install Windows, not letting the installer do any partitioning. Finally install Linux, letting GRUB replace the Windows bootloader.
 
Thanks for the suggestions lehtv. 🙂

The Xeon option looks good, I completely missed that option with my research.

Your PSU link doesn't work for me, I suppose you mean the one on newegg here?

The Samsung SSD is backordered on NCIX, if it's going to take a while to ship then maybe I'll stick with the Crucial M4 instead. Or is there something wrong with the Crucial?

Just curious, is there a reason why you preferred Amazon for the GPU rather than newegg for the same price?
 
Hehe, posts are flying here faster than I can respond to them. 😀

MagnusTheBrewer: Blender does use cuda for the cycles render engine, but I don't use cycles (not for now anyway). But IMO linux drivers are still more reliable for Nvidia than any option for AMD, that's why I have a preference here.

mfenn: Ok thanks for your info in both posts, I'll stick with the 830 then.
 
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