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melek-taus

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Dear anyone…

In the next weeks I am trying to purchase and build a new computer. The computer is mainly being used for gaming and graphical design.

The games I currently play are: Battlefield 4, COD Ghosts, Skyrim. The software I use is: Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator.

I am trying to build a new computer faster and stronger then my current one (in sig). I will be reusing my SSD, already bought a case and new HDD.
First I will try to replace the mainboard, CPU and cooler and keep the VGA, PSU etc. until I have enough money.

SSD I have is: Kingston SSDNow V300 60gb SATA 3
HDD I bought is: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm 64mb SATA 3
Case I bought is: Bitfenix Ronin

I don’t have a large budget so I was thinking about an AMD build. Would the following be a decent performance boost over my current build?

AMD FX-8320 Black Edition
€ 128,-
ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0
€ 63,04
Sapphire R9 270X 2GB GDDR5 OC DUAL-X Boost
€ 168,40
Cooler Master Seidon 120V
€ 38,-
G.Skill Sniper F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
€ 70,90
Asus DRW-24F1ST Zwart
€ 16,40
Cooler Master GM G550M
€ 53,90

The other build I was considering is an Intel build, however I do not have a very large budget so this might take longer to build. Is this Intel build a lot better than the AMD or would it not matter in performance?

Intel Core i5 4570 Boxed
€ 168,-
ASRock Z87 Extreme3
€ 93,02
Sapphire R9 270X 2GB GDDR5 OC DUAL-X Boost
€ 168,40
Cooler Master Seidon 120V
€ 38,-
G.Skill Sniper F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
€ 70,90
Asus DRW-24F1ST Zwart
€ 16,40
Cooler Master GM G550M
€ 53,90

The reason I went with ASRock mainboards is that I plan on building a black on black system with blue LED’s black sleeved cables etc.
I did look at other chipsets and mainboards but I prefer a good looking mainboard over a cheap mainboard.

As I always used Intel I do not know how AMD preforms or if it is worth considering. Nor do I have any information about AMD chipsets. Will the AMD build last like my current one, useable for at least 3 - 4 years.

Could someone provide information about the benefits of 990fx over 970 or any information about the differences.
Which one of the following mainboards would be the best to use and why.

ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0

ASRock 990FX Extreme3
 
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mfenn

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An i5 750 at 4.2 GHz (57% overclock) is still a pretty competent chip. It certainly beats a stock FX-8320 in poorly-threaded tasks and gets pretty close in well-threaded tasks. A Haswell i5 pulls away by a pretty good margin though.

For that reason, combined with the fact that the Intel CPU will get the job done using less power and thus producing less heat and noise, I would go with the Intel. However, you can certainly get your build cost lower by making a few changes.

Primarily, you are buying a bunch of overclocking-oriented components, but have selected a CPU that isn't capable of overclocking. I'd make the following changes:

Mobo: ASrock H87 Pro4 70 e
Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO 28 e
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport Low Profile 68 e - actually, just better overall memory
 

melek-taus

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Thank you for the input, seems AMD is a no go.
I thought the 4570 was still overclockable with some Z87 chipsets as only the multiplier would be locked. Am I wrong here? Non K CPU's can be overclocked the old fashion way or cant they?
The Seidon I can get it with a discount coupon for the price of an air cooler. The memory is nice, think I' ll pick that up.
I do not need to save a couple of bucks, looks and functions of the mainboard are more important then the price. For this reason I am only looking for black on black mainboards with large mosfit/ chipset heatsinks. The H87 does look nice and has the same features as the Z87 expect the overclocking capabilities.

The Intel build is within my budget but I have to safe a bit more to buy it so it takes a bit longer before I can buy it.
 
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Yes, while you technically can overclock a non-K CPU with BCLK, you can't push it more than a couple percent before other parts of the system start having issues. It's pretty much not worth it.

As for the two boards you picked out, they are roughly equivalent with the MSI getting the slight nod due to more rear-panel USB ports. But really, the ASRock H87 Pro4 is a better pick than all of them because it has the H87 chipset (more SATA 6 Gb/s ports, more USB 3.0 ports, RAID capabilities) and costs about the same.