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Koing

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£875 for 4 :)

Conti Sport Contacts M3 versions

225/40/19 x2
255/35/19 x2

Cost more then my first car!

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bryanW1995

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They're high performance tires that last longer than other "dry weather"/summer tires, and they're generally less expensive than many of the other options for 19" wheels.
 

Koing

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They're high performance tires that last longer than other "dry weather"/summer tires, and they're generally less expensive than many of the other options for 19" wheels.

I was thinking Michelin Pilot Sport 2's...but I'm happy with the tyres I have, and they are a bit cheaper and they were designed for the car in the first place.

When it's wet I don't push it. It's not ideal to push on in the wet in any rwd car.

Last set were pretty much brand new when I got the car. They lasted 8k miles...one track day and a airfield day.

I could have gotten them a bit cheaper but the delivery times and stuff. I just wanted them done.

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Kadarin

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Yeah, I'm not looking forward to buying tires when it comes time for that... 19's in front and 20's in back here.
 

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what's the matter, they don't have hankooks where you live?

if you're going to get shitty tires, might as well not overpay. blah @ continentals. maybe they're sticky; they're also shaped like eggs.
 
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They are specifically designed for the E46 M3. They also have great grip and last well.

Glad to hear that. My E46 M3, which I just picked up a few weeks ago, is equipped with a brand-new set of these. They seem fine so far, though I have only done a bit of very aggressive driving in the car.
 

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I was thinking Michelin Pilot Sport 2's...but I'm happy with the tyres I have, and they are a bit cheaper and they were designed for the car in the first place.

When it's wet I don't push it. It's not ideal to push on in the wet in any rwd car.

Last set were pretty much brand new when I got the car. They lasted 8k miles...one track day and a airfield day.

I could have gotten them a bit cheaper but the delivery times and stuff. I just wanted them done.

Koing

The ContiSportContact 2 have stiffer sidewalls than the PS2, so steering feel tends to be better. They do have less dry grip though, leading them to feel a bit squishy once pushed near the limit. Noise levels are roughly similar, though the tone is slightly different between the two. They do last longer than the PS2 though.
 

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The ContiSportContact 2 have stiffer sidewalls than the PS2, so steering feel tends to be better. They do have less dry grip though, leading them to feel a bit squishy once pushed near the limit. Noise levels are roughly similar, though the tone is slightly different between the two. They do last longer than the PS2 though.

All the sport contact 2s I've had tramlined like no other - I'm guessing that's a function of the sidewall stiffness (my toe out is a dead on spec). Couldn't tell the diff between the m3 and the regular version on my S4.

I will not be getting another set, it makes the steering on my m3 quite jumpy on the highway.
 
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All the sport contact 2s I've had tramlined like no other - I'm guessing that's a function of the sidewall stiffness (my toe out is a dead on spec). Couldn't tell the diff between the m3 and the regular version on my S4.

I will not be getting another set, it makes the steering on my m3 quite jumpy on the highway.

The tramlining will depend on the groove pitch of the freeways where you live.

Having a bit of toe-out in the front will increase a car's propensity to tramline, but I believe the tradeoffs are worthwhile. Most car manufacturers spec both the front and rear wheels to have some degree of toe-in not toe-out.
 

alkemyst

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eek

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiSportContact

I have the Exclaim UHP which are rather cheap and work well enough for me.

That's just it though, they are a good cheap tire. nothing great.

Personally I like my Goodyear Asymmetrics. Esp in our rainy summer months...they trade a little ultimate dry grip, but hydroplaning is hard to do with them.

I have been on really highly rated tires that get squirrely in the wet.

Plus they are quiet. I tried the cheap tires that many recommend on car forums and while brand new they perform pretty good, once you get 2000 or so miles on them they get noisier, harsher, etc. They may last 5k miles more, but those last 5k miles are miserable. With my ES100's I swore a wheel bearing was going.

They last only about 10-15k miles, but I run high camber, corner heavily and launch hard a lot. Driving Miss Daisy I could probably get a more respectable 20-25k out of them, but then I'd be better off with a cheaper tire.

Edit: I was about to post "didn't you just buy these same tire this year or so?"

it's a year and a half ago: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2042281

:)

Guess you liked them, that's the key thing. While PS2 and other tires could be better, you'd also only get 3 tires (or less) for that same price.
 
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Koing

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That's just it though, they are a good cheap tire. nothing great.

Personally I like my Goodyear Asymmetrics. Esp in our rainy summer months...they trade a little ultimate dry grip, but hydroplaning is hard to do with them.

I have been on really highly rated tires that get squirrely in the wet.

Plus they are quiet. I tried the cheap tires that many recommend on car forums and while brand new they perform pretty good, once you get 2000 or so miles on them they get noisier, harsher, etc. They may last 5k miles more, but those last 5k miles are miserable. With my ES100's I swore a wheel bearing was going.

They last only about 10-15k miles, but I run high camber, corner heavily and launch hard a lot. Driving Miss Daisy I could probably get a more respectable 20-25k out of them, but then I'd be better off with a cheaper tire.

Edit: I was about to post "didn't you just buy these same tire this year or so?"

it's a year and a half ago: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2042281

:)

Guess you liked them, that's the key thing. While PS2 and other tires could be better, you'd also only get 3 tires (or less) for that same price.

I rinsed my tyres...only put 8km on them...I did spend 1 track day and a airfield track day where I was seriously destroying the tyres and I guess thats where all of the damage was done...serious high speed cornering and then spinning out over and over again :p

I was happy with their performance but next time I'll go with PS2s.

For me wet performance can't be that bad. I'll never push it in the wet, it's silly with how easy the back can brake out if your crazy in the wet. I learnt with my S2000 in the wet on a track. Lots of fun and safe fun.

Noise? My current tyres are good and I've never been bothered with road noise as my cars are ever quiet.

Yeah thats the thread where I bought the car last year. Still loving it :)

Koing
 
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alkemyst

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I rinsed my tyres...only put 8km on them...I did spend 1 track day and a airfield track day where I was seriously destroying the tyres and I guess thats where all of the damage was done...serious high speed.

I was happy with their performance but next time I'll go with PS2. Hopefully the tyres will last longer then 8km :p

For me wet performance can't be that bad. I'll never push it in the wet, it's silly with how easy the back can brake out if your crazy in the wet. I learnt with my S2000 in the wet on a track. Lots of fun and safe fun.

Yeah thats the thread where I bought the car last year. Still loving it :)

Koing

Sometimes just a handful of track days are enough to kill a set of tires.

If you can afford them (and the whole logistics of it) an extra set of track compound tires last a lot longer than street meats.

Some tires chunk apart with just a lap or two.
 

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Sometimes just a handful of track days are enough to kill a set of tires.

If you can afford them (and the whole logistics of it) an extra set of track compound tires last a lot longer than street meats.

Some tires chunk apart with just a lap or two.

It would definitely be the way forwards if I did enough track days. I could get a spare set of wheels and tires on them. I can just about fit 4 tyres in to the car to take to a track day also.

I always do a warm up and warm down lap so that probably helps with the tyre wear, but a year and 8km isn't too bad. Not ideal but man you got to pay to play.

Been eying up the E92 M3 and the E60 M5 :p but the M5 prices are going to drop a chunk when the F10 M5 comes out...hmmmmm but the problem is I still really like my E46 M3. I'm also not hugely keen on the weight of the E60 M5 but know that the E92 M3 is about 100kg lighter but a decent £6-8k more pricey. Next year, just too conservative with my £££ and saving a stash. I probably save the most out of all of my mates.

Koing
 

alkemyst

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It would definitely be the way forwards if I did enough track days. I could get a spare set of wheels and tires on them. I can just about fit 4 tyres in to the car to take to a track day also.

I always do a warm up and warm down lap so that probably helps with the tyre wear, but a year and 8km isn't too bad. Not ideal but man you got to pay to play.

Been eying up the E92 M3 and the E60 M5 :p but the M5 prices are going to drop a chunk when the F10 M5 comes out...hmmmmm but the problem is I still really like my E46 M3. I'm also not hugely keen on the weight of the E60 M5 but know that the E92 M3 is about 100kg lighter but a decent £6-8k more pricey. Next year, just too conservative with my £££ and saving a stash. I probably save the most out of all of my mates.

Koing

I just can't get past the low gas mileage on the M5. The E92 I didn't like. Faster and quicker than the E46, sure...but doesn't feel it. It does sound nice though :)
 

Koing

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I just can't get past the low gas mileage on the M5. The E92 I didn't like. Faster and quicker than the E46, sure...but doesn't feel it. It does sound nice though :)

I commute via train to work so no biggie on the gas mileage, but yes it's shocking to get 15-17mpg in city driving, then single digits when you really push it LOL and coupled with the rubbishly small tank is not a great combo. But it's a V10 :D

The E92 has grown on me a lot.

I'll probably end up owning an E60 M5 at sometime in the future, probably after the F10 M5 has smashed the prices down a bit. I'm just not keen on heavy cars but the engine!

Koing
 

alkemyst

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yeah train to work would make that great. I have 31 miles each way, mostly stop and go at times. Fortunately outside of clients my schedule allows me to just commute on off hours so I'd be getting mostly highway levels.

I debated a second car and that's just not what I want to deal with...I debated looking for a 30MPG car too and none really fit my style of driving. I am just hoping I can average around 17-18mpg.
 

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Been eying up the E92 M3 and the E60 M5 :p but the M5 prices are going to drop a chunk when the F10 M5 comes out...hmmmmm but the problem is I still really like my E46 M3. I'm also not hugely keen on the weight of the E60 M5 but know that the E92 M3 is about 100kg lighter but a decent £6-8k more pricey. Next year, just too conservative with my £££ and saving a stash. I probably save the most out of all of my mates.

Koing

How about some of both?

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