Whoa, the ignorance and the claws came out pretty quick, didn't they. I can't recall an uglier thread, but I'm not trying to hard to.
Pabster, I'm impressed you've maintained a civil tone throughout all those debunkings. Thanks for trying to raise the level of discourse and knowledge.
Ronin, why not table your attitude to give johnqq an example to follow.
M0rph, the GeForce 5800 was built using a smaller process than the Radeon 9700P, 130 vs 150nm, yet that didn't really help it in terms of performance, power draw, or price. And nV isn't sitting on their hands. G70 is an impressive achievement, considering it draws the same power as NV40 but offers more and more capable pixel shaders running at a higher speed, and is more available and lower-priced than NV40 was near launch. And nV is moving on 90nm, as you can see in RSX and the GF 6100. The "Go G70" is not the same as the 6100: it's a high-end GPU, not an IGP. It'll pack more pipes than the 6800go, which had 12.
BouZouki, that wasn't necessary.
crazydingo, Pabster answered your point appropriately. You point to the A64 as an example of a process shrink conferring benefits, and he pointed out that Prescott proves that a process shrink doesn't necessarily mean only good things.
Rollo, your sarcasm was as helpful as BouZouki's name-calling. Well done.
Turtle, you sure about that? I'd have thought nV would've let ppl know if that were the case.
apoppin, were you being serious or facetious? Twice the perf at the same power (and thus heat) level is a big deal, especially as power is fast becoming a limiting factor.
M0rph, where did Pabster "bash ATI?"
What a sorry excuse for a thread. You kids should be ashamed of yourselves. Go to your rooms, and no dessert tonight!
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