New Arab rallying cry: 'Enough'

conjur

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New Arab rallying cry: 'Enough'

Wednesday's protest in Egypt shows how the growing push for democracy in the Middle East also has an anti-US streak.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0331/p01s04-wome.html
CAIRO ? At a demonstration here Wednesday, kifaya was the mantra. About 500 secular and democracy activists returned again and again to the one-word slogan - the Arabic word that translates to "enough" - at the heart of their invigorated campaign to bring democracy to Egypt.

Kifaya has become the name of a movement and the buzzword of what some Western commentators are calling the "Arab Spring" - the rise of democratic expression around the region. In rallies from tiny Bahrain to Egypt, demonstrators are shouting kifaya to dictators, kifaya to corruptions, and kifaya to the silence of Arabs eager for change.

There's no question that the freedom rhetoric of the US and President Bush has helped crack the door for political activism in the Middle East. A look behind the slogan, however, reveals a complex web of secular and Islamist activists who say they share Bush's zeal for democracy, but expect real political change will lead to a repudiation of the US.

In Lebanon, largely pro-Western demonstrators saying enough to the Syrian occupation of their country have been met by demonstrators led by Hizbullah, saying enough to what they view as US meddling in Lebanese politics.

In Bahrain last week, the largest protests in memory saw the country's politically disenfranchised Shiite majority saying enough to pro-American King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa's policies. And in Cairo Wednesday the chants included "Enough to Mubarak, Enough to Bush, Enough to Blair,'' along with "We will not be ruled by the CIA" and "Down with the White House."

It was a reminder that while the US has contributed to the shift in climate in the Middle East, a real democratic opening, in the short term at least, may not serve US interests. Most in the region appear angry at America's close relationship with Israel and its invasion of Iraq, and say that statements prodding allies to reform haven't overcome decades of support for Arab dictators.

"There seems to be this assumption that if you're pro-democracy then you're pro-US foreign policy, and that's incredibly misleading,'' says Marc Lynch, a political scientist and expert on the Middle East at Williams College in Massachusetts.

As a secular and modern Egyptian democrat, Jihan Shabaan is the very image of the Middle Eastern citizens President Bush hopes will take to the streets and demand the freedom.

She says a lifetime without political freedoms, in which she's watched average Egyptians drift deeper into poverty, has convinced her to risk everything at the forefront of Egypt's Kifaya movement, which is demanding that President Hosni Mubarak, Egypt's long-time strong-man, step down and be replaced by a freely elected leader.

Beyond just Egypt

But for Ms. Shabaan and most of her colleagues in the movement, "enough" doesn't apply to President Mubarak alone. She expects a democratic Egypt would distance itself from the US, a long-time ally, and hit out at what she calls decades of "hypocritical" US policy in the Middle East.

"If things really change here, America's illusions that its interests in the region would be advanced by democracy will be laid bare,'' she says. "A real democratic government in Egypt would be strongly against the US occupation of Iraq and regional US policies, particularly over Palestine. We are strongly against US influence."


Despite apparently genuine sentiment, Kifaya organizers say there's also practical reasons to make the distance from the US clear. The government has tried to paint democracy activists as foreign puppets in the past, alleging they take foreign money. "The regime are the ones taking American money. But they always accuse us of having foreign money whenever there are calls for democracy," says Shabaan.

Attitudes like Shabaan's point to a frequently overlooked disconnect. America's conviction that its rhetoric will help secure its interests in the region often clash with the anti-US leanings of many of the Arab world's democracy activists, who generally belong either to Islamist parties or to left-leaning, anti-US groups.

"We want a transformation against America and all its projects in the region,'' says Abdel Halim Qandeel, an editor at the anti-regime Al Arabi newspaper and one of Kifaya's key activists. "There's a historical irony here. We have two kinds of resistance in the region - armed resistance as in Iraq and Palestine, and political resistance in the Arab capitals ... and all of the opposition movements are staunchly anti-imperialist, whether Islamists" or secular nationalists.

Wednesday's demonstration was the latest in a string of illegal protests by the Kifaya movement, with about 500 activists waving yellow banners emblazoned with their slogan and chanting slogans against Mubarak and his son, Gamal, who many here believe is being groomed to take over from the president.

Origins of a movement

The nucleus of what calls itself Kifaya today began organizing five years ago in response to the Palestinian uprising and picked up steam in March 2003 when about 10,000 Egyptians took to the streets of Cairo to protest the US invasion of Iraq. That protest quickly evolved into an anti-Mubarak demonstration, the first in his 25-year rule.

While those causes might seem far afield from demands for change inside Egypt, the country's activists see them as inextricably linked.

The US has provided about $2 billion a year in aid to Egypt since its 1980 peace agreement with Israel, and Egypt's activists see in the unpopular peace treaty and relative Egyptian silence over the invasion evidence that the country's foreign policy "has been colonized by the US,'' as Mr. Qandeel puts it.
History is written by the winners, eh? Well, if the GOP remains in power, perhaps history will show the Propagandist as a saviour/catalyst that brought democracy to the Mideast. But, will relations bear that out or will the US's interventionist foreign policies override any good the Propagandist may have done in spite of himself?

I've a feeling that the Propagandist bit off more than he can chew and the results are showing in the pains evident in Iraq. Esp. considering the US is trying to shoe-horn Chalabi or Allawi into the new gov't to assure a pro-US gov't. Democracy, eh?

Hmm...
 

DealMonkey

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What about the disconnect between the U.S. rhetoric for democratic reforms in the ME region, while simultaneously pumping US$ into the repressive regimes that seek to block or limit those very reforms? It's the most schitzophrenic foreign policy I think I've ever seen.
 

Genx87

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It is funny these protests are popping up after the fall of Iraq. You have Syria being thrown out by the Lebanese and voting taking place in Saudi Arabia.

While these people probably dont want to admit the U.S. has helped them at all. I dont see how the U.S. has impeded the movement towards democracy in the region.

I know this is hard pill for you to swallow and will spin it any way you can. But the reality of the situation is it appears GWBs plan for the region is starting to take shape.
 

conjur

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Oh and of course every new emerging democracy will stoop and kiss the Propagandist's feet? Come back to reality.

Did you bother to read the article? Doesn't sound like it.
 

Genx87

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Did I say they have to love or even like us? Didnt I mention they dont want to admit the help the United States has done?

But continue to put the negative spin on it. You and Dmcowen are practically one in the same. And I wouldnt take that as a compliment either.




 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Genx87
It is funny these protests are popping up after the fall of Iraq. You have Syria being thrown out by the Lebanese and voting taking place in Saudi Arabia.

While these people probably dont want to admit the U.S. has helped them at all. I dont see how the U.S. has impeded the movement towards democracy in the region.

I know this is hard pill for you to swallow and will spin it any way you can. But the reality of the situation is it appears GWBs plan for the region is starting to take shape.

Yes, and if we want to hand Bush that credit I would agree. These protests are taking place because people are becoming ore brazen after seeing what happened in IRaq.

But i content that is isn't just because of the "democracy" they see growing. That is only a part of it...their desire to also live in a demcoracy.

But i think the other thing they see is us FORCING oursleves into the region and they don't like that. In the past we do it indirectly~ support a dictator or royal family. And they realize that ultimately in the end there is no difference between 14 American bases in Iraq, or the 2 billion we give Eygpt each year so the president can oppress his own people.

They are saying "Ka-fee" because, like the article said, they want self determination for their democracy FREE of foreign influence. NOT a "conditional democracy" that allows freedom insofar that it does not cross the boundries of wht America disapproves or approves...they don't want a

Bush should get the credit because in one hand he is promoting democracy and that made people realize "Why are we living without our own representation". But the problem is while Bush promotes democracy with his right hand, his left hand is quietly supporting those who are inhibiting democracy from taking root.
And in the end, it comes down to ACTIONS and not WORDS that make a difference.
And considering the way we are dealing with Iraq...I fully understand why they are doing this.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Genx87
It is funny these protests are popping up after the fall of Iraq. You have Syria being thrown out by the Lebanese and voting taking place in Saudi Arabia.

While these people probably dont want to admit the U.S. has helped them at all. I dont see how the U.S. has impeded the movement towards democracy in the region.

I know this is hard pill for you to swallow and will spin it any way you can. But the reality of the situation is it appears GWBs plan for the region is starting to take shape.

It seems to me that they're popping up after the Ukraine stuff.
 

mrCide

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i still argue that lebanon's rallying and protests has nothing to do with bush. it has to do with the former PM being assassinated, someone whom was loved by the people, and obviously the actions that took place thereafter. they're demanding syrians pull out because of the assumptions of their influence in this, and their influence in the government

as for the others, i'll reserve my opinion for another day.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms


It seems to me that they're popping up after the Ukraine stuff.

Umm. . .I think that to the Lebanese, elections in Iraq and Afghanistan probably matter more than in the Ukraine.

I'm cynical about the longevity of these events, and I'm even more cynical about the US's reaction to them if they end up being anti-American in result.

But, I've been wrong before.

i still argue that lebanon's rallying and protests has nothing to do with bush. it has to do with the former PM being assassinated, someone whom was loved by the people, and obviously the actions that took place thereafter. they're demanding syrians pull out because of the assumptions of their influence in this, and their influence in the government

You're probably right about the motivations of the people, but one could argue that the significant US presence in the region is what prevented Syria from pulling a "Tienamen."