New App: SSDReady

[Virgorising]

Just read about this on the interwebs and got it....have not yet installed it. Anyone know about this?

http://www.ssdready.com/ssdready/

U apparently leave it on all day and it tells you exactly what has been written to the drive, etc.

Norton autoscans every download, says this is is clean file.

I am now going to install it.
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Edit: head ups....was about to install it and then came upon this:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1462043/warning-stay-away-from-ssdready
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OK wait, below is a post from the thread I link to above:

SsdReady writes nothing while working. Only at exit and the log is very compact, about 500kb per million writes. Additionally, SsdReady have no trial, it's free to use as many as you want. I think that you have used another software because SsdReady can't do that and have no trial. CrystalDiskInfo can't detect any writes because it read only SMART data from drive, when this writes was done and who did it - only file monitor can see ( like SsdReady or ProcessMonitor ).
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Addendum: It appears not compatible with above W7....tho I run W7. I installed it and will try it....if it creeps me out or I hate it I will uninstall it.

Would luv feedback from anyone here who has tried this.

 

[Virgorising]

K....I am already starting to hate it and feel it's stupid and of little value.....I could snap and stop it and uninstall it any second.

Unless someone comes forth and says, I have this, I run this ongoing; it rocks!" And then says why.
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Update: while this thingy is at first kinda interesting to watch run....tho, I think, not as much as the activity in an ant farm:sneaky:😛.....options I was interested in, i.e. "Options" and "Processes" in the tool bar, when U hit those, says only available in the paid for version.

I think SSDLife yields the important data....tho not yet sure if this is better in any way.

Surely at least one other human here must have tried this thingy, no?:\

 

[Fardringle]

If you have a specific need to know where certain files are coming from (i.e. malware type files "mysteriously" appearing on the drive and normal anti-malware scans don't detect the source) then it might be useful. Otherwise, I can't think of any reason why I would want to have this running on my computer.

 

[Virgorising]

If you have a specific need to know where certain files are coming from (i.e. malware type files "mysteriously" appearing on the drive and normal anti-malware scans don't detect the source) then it might be useful. Otherwise, I can't think of any reason why I would want to have this running on my computer.

:wub:

I guess I was interested in seeing if the free version might give me more precise data on what kinda things comprise my writes to the drive, and, if, when it runs for the time it takes to arrive at its assessment, if its predicted life expectancy for the drive is close to what SSDLife says.

I am trying to chill and give it a chance.

Thanks, Fardringle!!!! U sure U don wanna get it and try it?()🙂
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I just hit buy it to see how much the paid for version costs. for one private computer, $11.99. ($50 for a server) Sounds very modest, but not if it's stupid and useless and just something else running all the time.

I have to say I am impressed by their site and the data they present and the way they present them.

Maybe I will keep it for another day and let it run for what they say is a decent minimum to yield info of some value.

I should try not to rush to judgement, even tho I think its stupid.

 

[Virgorising]

Running for almost an hour how.....all the metrics keep changing. I think I might let it run for another two hours, until midnite, and then turn it into a pumpkin. Tho one smaller than Kim Kardashian's butt.:whiste::biggrin:

 

[Virgorising]

Running now for 90 mins....data getting happier, I am growing some affection for it; it's kinda interesting.

 

[OlyAR15]

Can you explain why I would want to know how much is being written to my drive?

 

[Virgorising]

Can you explain why I would want to know how much is being written to my drive?

Forgive me for asking, but a person with an $800 solid state drive (in a water cooled rig & with 16GBs of DDR4) is asking this question with sincerity?😱

 

[OlyAR15]

Forgive me for asking, but a person with an $800 solid state drive (in a water cooled rig & with 16GBs of DDR4) is asking this question with sincerity?😱

Actually yes, it was a sincere question since I am not sure what I would do with this information. Is it to check for malware or rogue programs? Is it something just for informational purposes?

BTW, the drive was $700.

 

[Mushkins]

Forgive me for asking, but a person with an $800 solid state drive (in a water cooled rig & with 16GBs of DDR4) is asking this question with sincerity?😱

It's a reasonable question. Unless I was troubleshooting mysteriously high read/write access on a drive I can't come up with a single reason why this tool would be run regularly (aside from morbid curiosity I guess?). Modern SSDs do not have issues with longevity, even power users can run them far beyond the estimated life of a PC reading/writing massive amounts of data with no issue. The only place this sort of information really has day to day value is in a datacenter environment, and they've already got considerably more robust tools at their disposal to manage their storage and view metrics.

 

[Virgorising]

Actually yes, it was a sincere question since I am not sure what I would do with this information. Is it to check for malware or rogue programs? Is it something just for informational purposes?

BTW, the drive was $700.

K funny. $700 not 8. :biggrin: But you know full well why it's helpful to know how much we R writing to an SSD....despite, current generation ones are a vast improvement over earlier generations. And that was the question you posed.

I uninstalled the app. But am also happy I got it and tested it. The reason it runs ongoing is to gather far more detailed info than similar apps are able to. So, the log report U end up with is posed to be more accurate.

Depending on how occupied it is....you have less to worry about with your 1tB drive than I do with my 240GB drive...tho I keep mine at around 50% free.

While I may be worrying too much....that too will be mitigated over time.

Unless I have a strong negative instinct about something, I try not to dismiss it out of hand. my default mode is to chase data....an,d sometimes, that involves having some first hand experience with a given thing.

You will learn far more...assuming U R really interested, by going to their page and hitting take the tour.

 

[Virgorising]

It's a reasonable question. Unless I was troubleshooting mysteriously high read/write access on a drive I can't come up with a single reason why this tool would be run regularly (aside from morbid curiosity I guess?). Modern SSDs do not have issues with longevity, even power users can run them far beyond the estimated life of a PC reading/writing massive amounts of data with no issue. The only place this sort of information really has day to day value is in a datacenter environment, and they've already got considerably more robust tools at their disposal to manage their storage and view metrics.

Pls see my post below, and go to their page and hit "take the tour." Had i not done that right off, I would not have gotten and tested this app....tho as I just shared, I also uninstalled it after testing it, feeling after letting it run for what I thought was sufficient time to produce a worthy report....I didn't learn more than I already knew.

Also, pls read OlyR15's original question (demand) again. Mucho hostility there, and nobody with a rig that expensive, forget the reality of his SSD would not know why thinking about writes to any SSD is an issue. My response to the question was entirely justified. I have no need to explain it beyond what I now have.

Best.

Now....if I got the pro verison, I would be able to see exactly what comprised writes to the drive on a given day. that I would kinda like....and that is not available in the free version

 

[OlyAR15]

Sorry if it seemed my original question appeared hostile. It wasn't. It just seemed like there was something missing about this program, namely what you are supposed to do with the information.

I was taught in med school that, if the results of a lab test is not going to change the management of your patient, then it is a waste to order that test. And it seems that this program is kind of like that. I know that flash memory has a limited number of writes, but then again, mechanical hard drives also has a limited lifespan since they will eventually wear out. So having an estimate of how long your drive will last (assuming it is even remotely accurate) raises the question of: what now?

And the cost of my drive is irrelevant. I know that my expensive drive will be worth a small fraction of what I paid for it in a couple of years, regardless of how much or little it is used. That money is, for all intents and purposes, gone. So why not make the most of it? Sure the drive may last longer if there are fewer writes to it, but I'm not going to change the way I use my computer, that would seem backward. And that's assuming that there is anything you can change. So what if windows is writing a lot of stuff to the drive? Do I stop using windows? Or another program that I use frequently? If I was that concerned, I would probably stick with a mechanical drive ( which will in all probability require a replacement in five years anyways).

 

[Virgorising]

Sorry if it seemed my original question appeared hostile. It wasn't. It just seemed like there was something missing about this program, namely what you are supposed to do with the information.

Thanks for this. Re "hostile," to be more precise, harshly, cavalierly dismissive and not elegantly interactive, and so, alienating, necrotic and fodder for defensive suspicion. As a medical professional, you should know how what you bring humanly to every interaction impacts clinical outcome....tho in ways no double blind protocols or lab reports will ever be able to distill. Elements which may be unfathomable via conventional, scientific means but never inaccessible.

You should also know, a practitioner can bring good academic chops, but not be a healer, or be able to evolve a sound differential diagnosis....given the complexity of the latter involves intuitive acuity along with cognitive. Witness Chinese physicians and how they can often diagnose accurately without our wondrous technology.

Also remember....a surgeon can clean out some deep wound, approximate the edges, suture....but the healing involves the tissues granulating up from the deepest level...as is inherent in our miraculous engineering.

And the cost of my drive is irrelevant.

Again, think HOLISTICALLY....as if you were working a patient up. No piece of data exists in a vacuum or in isolation.

And also, always celebrate being fully present this moment, and open... and never hobbled by simplistic or formulaic beliefs.....the goodies are in the Journey.

And thanks again! This little exchange has now evolved into a really healthy interesting dynamic!:thumbsup:

 

[imagoon]

All you need to do is take SMART id #241 and multiply by 512 to get total bytes written. Does this show anything interesting otherwise? The screenshots don't really seem to show anything interesting.

My Samsung 830 is at 77% according to the [smart] tool at a bit over 3 years of use so I personally don't seem much use for this app if it just is showing "total writes."

 

[Virgorising]

All you need to do is take SMART id #241 and multiply by 512 to get total bytes written. Does this show anything interesting otherwise? The screenshots don't really seem to show anything interesting.

I agree, and that is why after witnessing its reality, I uninstalled it. But, again, as I also posted more than once, should I have gone for the paid for version, I would have been privy to the details which do interest me....and those, AGAIN, would comprise more specifics THAN TOTAL WRITES.

 

[OlyAR15]

Well, after perusing their website, I think the program has gone from an interesting if pointless exercise, into the realm of a program that is detrimental to your computing usage. As far as I can tell, this program is geared to one thing: obsessing over the death of your SSD. It is one thing to understand that flash memory has a finite lifespan and will eventually need to be replaced, but to obsess over it to the point that it affects your use of the device is going too far.

And here is a prime example: Under "Optimization" page: http://www.ssdready.com/ssd-optimization/

"1. If you have solid-state drive additionally to HDD. Move all most active folders and files to the HDD. Usually it will be: pagefile.sys , temp folders and internet cache."

This is, IMO, horrible advice. Yes, this might increase the lifespan of your SSD, but you have gutted the performance of your computer. At this point, why even bother with an SSD?

It is like someone who buys a high end sports car, but doesn't want to drive it for fear of increasing its depreciation. Or getting more metaphysical, someone who is so afraid of dying that he/she forgets to live (Wow, getting very deep here).

The fact that flash memory has a finite life does not stop me from using my smartphone or tablet the way I want. It does not stop me from taking as many photos on my digital camera as I want. So why would it stop me from using an SSD the way I want?

Besides, in a few years, chances are we will be moving to M2 or PCIe based SSDs anyways.

 

[Virgorising]

Well, after perusing their website, I think the program has gone from an interesting if pointless exercise, into the realm of a program that is detrimental to your computing usage. As far as I can tell, this program is geared to one thing: obsessing over the death of your SSD. It is one thing to understand that flash memory has a finite lifespan and will eventually need to be replaced, but to obsess over it to the point that it affects your use of the device is going too far.

I could not agree more, and one of my infinite journeys of late and those are organic in their progression as per tissue granulating up....is trying to reclaim the center: not to be reckless, but not to let fear of writes compromise what I use computers for every day.

Same deal as in fitness. Or nutrition. Or most other things.

If you have solid-state drive additionally to HDD. Move all most active folders and files to the HDD. Usually it will be: pagefile.sys , temp folders and internet cache."

Yes....cept I choose internal backup strategy, meaning , everything is on my SSD (only 131 GB out of 240 tho)....and I do regular full clones to update my backup drive which is a WD Black. I have dual boot, but boot into the SSD almost always.

It is like someone who buys a high end sports car, but doesn't want to drive it for fear of increasing its depreciation. Or getting more metaphysical, someone who is so afraid of dying that he/she forgets to live (Wow, getting very deep here).

Indeed, both good analogies...not, U R not getting deep, you have entered my default reality.

But in all endeavors, the challenge is to do the work...and it is work...to earn eyes by Marcel Proust (as per my sig)....learn, chase those data and always in perspective....while also always looking WITHIN to identify and expunge any little enemies there. there are no shortcuts. No right clicking and sending to the recycle bin. We are far too complex and breathtaking for any such thing.

And always honor the journey and the perfection of the natural process. You are not here to "MANAGE' patients (or me here on this site)….sounds like the input of a robotic martinet attending, who shoulda gotten an MBA and stayed the hell away from medicine.

You are here to grow your chops over time, and infinitely, including learning from yr patients, connect with each one as a unique individual and be a savvy colleague in a common struggle, and augment their inherent capacity to heal and recover.

Unless, of course, U wanna do PG work and become Board Certified in surgery where you can invest more in isolated mechanics….but, even then, your intial consultation/interaction with patients will impact.

Same rich phenomenon is posed to manifest right here on this site! And in all of formal education…if not all human connections.

Is this a tech site? U BET. But we are unique humans employing technology. We loose touch with that, or the journey....we loose everything.