New anti-copy cd measures broken: cheaper than a sharpie!

Miramonti

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(this is news to me, I couldn't find a previous post about it)<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1025_3-5087875.html?part=msnbc-cnet&tag=alert&form=feed&subj=cnetnews" target=blank>

hold down the shift key</A>
 

Kaervak

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"Shift key breaks CD copy locks"

Now that's just sad. BMG probably dumped a bit of cash on this and it's defeated by holding the shift key. You'd think they'd get the hint already.
 

Danman

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I don't understand. Why would they use something like that if they knew that the shift key would disable it?
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: cashman
I don't understand. Why would they use something like that if they knew that the shift key would disable it?

Read the article.

From the fourth paragraph:

"This is something we were aware of," said BMG spokesman Nathaniel Brown. "Copy management is intended as a speed bump, intended to thwart the casual listener from mass burning and uploading. We made a conscious decision to err on the side of playability and flexibility."
 

Shelly21

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Avg. people probably can't figure out how to turn off auto-play. However, people who rips mp3s are above avg. people.
 

vi edit

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What I don't understand is why they put all this money for anti-piracy into albums that would barely even register on the "top pirated album" chart.

I could see doing it for popular albums that are in demand...but for a soul artist that a small fraction of the population has even heard off??? :confused:
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: notfred
I wonder what happens if you try to play the CD on a mac or linux box.
Hopefully it destroys your crappy operating system!

 

RU482

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Avg. people probably can't figure out how to turn off auto-play. However, people who rips mp3s are above avg. people.

technically speaking ;)
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Avg. people probably can't figure out how to turn off auto-play. However, people who rips mp3s are above avg. people.

very true
 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: notfred
I wonder what happens if you try to play the CD on a mac or linux box.
Plays fine. There's no autorun bullsh-t to deal with, and even if there was, there are no mac/linux executables on it. This "copy-protection" is just a TSR that blocks access to audio tracks.
 

Doggiedog

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That sounds as hilarious as the Master combination lock picking that was invented at my HS way back when. Master lock sent in some experts to see how we were able to do it and they created a new lock to prevent it from happening.

Unfortunately for them, the guys at my HS figured out that if you hit the lock with a karate chop at a specific location, it would open it.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
That sounds as hilarious as the Master combination lock picking that was invented at my HS way back when. Master lock sent in some experts to see how we were able to do it and they created a new lock to prevent it from happening.

Unfortunately for them, the guys at my HS figured out that if you hit the lock with a karate chop at a specific location, it would open it.

Your HS figured that out? I am not sure how old you are but taking a weight plate to the front of a master combo lock was going on since before I graduated in 1989.
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
That sounds as hilarious as the Master combination lock picking that was invented at my HS way back when. Master lock sent in some experts to see how we were able to do it and they created a new lock to prevent it from happening.

Unfortunately for them, the guys at my HS figured out that if you hit the lock with a karate chop at a specific location, it would open it.

Your HS figured that out? I am not sure how old you are but taking a weight plate to the front of a master combo lock was going on since before I graduated in 1989.

There was a system of picking the lock through touch. It was something like pull the latch slightly, when it tugs, add 5. That's the first #. Then click the lock, second sharp click is second and the third was easy.

This was back in '84.
 

PanzerIV

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[Begin sarcasm mode] Everyone who implements this method should be running in terror because now the RIAA is going to uphold Article IV, subsection C of the anti-copy-protection-circumventing bill passed a few months ago. :D They are going to begin issuing lawsuits immediately.[/End sarcasm mode]
 

Vic

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/burts into tears laughing....

When will they learn? That which can be played, can be recorded. There is no stopping it. True, a format change may be required (i.e. CD -> mp3 or DVD -> SVCD) and quality will probably be lost, but the copying itself cannot be prevented.
They should focus on making something that people will be proud to pay for.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Vic
/burts into tears laughing....

When will they learn? That which can be played, can be recorded. There is no stopping it. True, a format change may be required (i.e. CD -> mp3 or DVD -> SVCD) and quality will probably be lost, but the copying itself cannot be prevented.
They should focus on making something that people will be proud to pay for.

Amen. Even if the RIAA starts selling music as boxes with speakers built in, there'll still be someone who cuts the leads to the speaker and gets some analog input.
 

dabuddha

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Shouldn't something be done about these guys installing/running software on your PC w/o your permission? Sounds like what a "virus" would do.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Disable autorun permanently. What a crappy "feature."

Uh no. Autorun works great for people who are not computer savvy. For example, my parents.
 

Kadarin

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Lifted from Slashdot postings:

Start with a Windows 2000/XP system with empty CD drives. Be sure to reboot the computer first to ensure MediaMax is not running.

1. Click the Start button and select Control Panel from the Start Menu.
2. Double-click on the System control panel icon.
3. Select the Hardware tab and click the Device Manager button.
4. Configure Device Manager by clicking "Show hidden devices" and "Devices by connection," both from the View menu.
5. Insert the Anthony Hamilton CD into the computer and allow the SunnComm software to start. Observe that the SbcpHid device driver is added to the Device Manager list when MediaMax runs for the first time.

At this point you can attempt to copy tracks from the CD with applications like MusicMatch Jukebox or Windows Media Player. Copies made while the driver is active will sound badly garbled, as in this 9-second clip [10].

Next, follow these additional steps to disable MediaMax:

1. Select the SbcpHid driver from the Device Manager list and click "Properties" from the Action Menu.
2. Click the Driver tab and click the Stop button to disable the driver.

With the driver stopped, you can verify that the same applications copy every track successfully.

and

Better yet...

Run -> gpedit.msc -> computer configuration -> administrative templates -> system

In the right pane, double-click "Turn off autoplay" and set to enabled.

Auto-running CDs is a security problem waiting to happen.