New Antec case has helped my temps a bit....

Duvie

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Got the new case and as many of you were familar with my past post early on with my new 2.4c I was getting extremely high temps even though I had reapplied AS2, got New AS5, went from an alpha w/ 80mm ystech fan to a swiftech with the same 80mm fan to the swiftech with an 90mm

I had 3 scenarios

1) case side off outside of desk enclosure

sys temps (idle/load) = 25-28
cpu temp (idle/load) = 44-61
pwm temp (idle/load) = 30-42

NO issues in any stress testing or encoding....

2) case side on outside of desk

sys temps (idle/load) = 27-31
cpu temp (idle/load) = 45-63.5
pwm temp (idle/load) = 32-44

NO issues in any stress testing over the last few weeks after extensive testing....

3) case side on and inside desk

sys temps (idle/load) = 27-32
cpu temp (idle/load) = 45-65
pwm temp (idle/load) = 32-45

Had a few issues like read errors in tmpgenc...Ruled out error in source file and reran with case outside of desk or case door open and no errors and 6 hour encode...

So naturally I am thinking cpu heat. Then at the time I through back on the 80mm ystech fan that did about as good (within 1c) of the 90mm fan since it pushed 50cfm and this 90mm is pushing 58cfm max....I turned the dial down to 2200rpm fan on the 80mm dropping the cfm to likely 30cfm area and the temp on the cpu got to 68c with case side open and outside of desk and it made it through the encoding of 6 hour test with prime95 running in background....OK cpu heat is not issue and the chip is not throttling...

My theory then looked at that I would likely get a read error or error in prime95 when the PWM reached +44c range...What is the pWM you ask?? Many have speculated that it was the NB temp but that in fact is untrue...the temp is taken in an area of mosfetts (power do-thingies ;) )....It appears my fan duping the hot heat from the heatsink fins was blasting the area and heating it up and then the fact poor case cooling or at least inadequate for this endeavor was then cycling warmer air back over fin and thus not expelling the heated air quickly enough to cool down areas on the board as well as the ram heatspreader would get quite hot.....

Step to new case...


Antec tower with 2 80mm exhaust fans (ultra quiet 80mm) in back...1 intake front across the HDD and one side intafe fan aiming around the vid card/ NB chipset region...POwer supply has a dual fan system as well...

New temps with case closed in desk full dual POV-Ray encodings going simultaneously....Also testing TMPGENC with prime95 in the background...noted no errors yet...

sys temps (idle/load) = 25-28c ***obvious sign of better cooling as case temp stay close to room temp of 24c (75f)***
cpu temps (idle/load) = 43-61c ***little better likely do to better case temp by about 3-4c...seems to be limitation of HSF***
PWM temp (idle/load) = 28-40c ***much better here as obvious cooler case temps, better ventilation on that area, and cooler cpu exhaust is helping***

note: that with case outside of desk maybe 1c better in cpu only....with side door open 2c better cpu/1c better sys temp and 1c better pwm....

Conclusion the case has given me max case ventilation...Now I am left with Abit temp readings and likely limtations of the swiftech MCX400 heatsink....

Maty get the Zalman 7000al-cu for testing of cpu temps....
 

Insane3D

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Yep. a nice case with good airflow can make quite a difference. Also, taking the extra time to run everything cleanly out of the way so you have as much open area as possible is helpful. I've currently got two of the Chieftech Dragon cases (Antec 1040 clones) with side window and side intake fan.

I've got a 2.4C M0, Abit IS7, 2 x 512mb HyperX PC3500, SLK947-U, and a ATI retail 9800 Pro on the way, and I am considering upgrading to the AMS gTower. I like the clean design, and the 120mm exhaust fan should provide plenty of airflow @ low RPM's.

I may upgrade the stock 120mm with a Sunbeam fan controller and one of those Antec Clear Pro fans...~70CFM, 29dBA.

:)
 

jose

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Which case did you have & which model # Antec did you get ?
Regards,
Jose
 

Duvie

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Actually it is a chemming case but it says antec on the fans and t is identical to a case antec sells...

Aluminum Chenming UNEEC 601AASLUF 1 69.99
Mini-Server Chassis w/
Side Window 3 fans -
Silver

At www.svc.com
 

KF

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>one side intake fan aiming around the vid card/ NB chipset region

This is what is probably getting the temps down at the whachama-PWM. Regardless of what your front intake is, air more or less drifts where it will through the middle of the case until it gets to the exhaust fans. Combined with the CPU fan, you probably had a stagnant area around the PWM.
 

Duvie

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Actually there is a pic floating around that shows according to the manufactrer the PWM is the area in the upper right hand corner of the cpu heatsink just between the heatsink and the ram....


Before I had 2 exhaust and 1 intake and the 1 intake had to go through a lot to trickle in some cooler air. I also had modded a side intake fan but it was a 120mm fand and that was more noise then I could take....I also modded in a blow hole at top of case....

So now I have 2 intakes lower front (one silent and the other close to....1 flows over the raptor hdd and actually in the hdd bay....The other in unimpeded underneath HDD bay....I also have the side intake and I am sure that is helping temps of southbridge and vid card...Then throw in the 2 exhaust and the dual fan power supply and you would think this was a loud SOB....Actually less noise then my old case with 2 less fans. Could be materials and obviously much quiter new fans...
 

digits

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thats a great case ya got there duvie ( got the same one in blue :) )I noticed same temp losses as you over my old Skyhawk aluminum tower. Before the PWM temp use to jump to over 50c but now stays below 40c (load) without a CPU HSF (water cooled) Before WC i had a7000 AL-CU and that helped the PWM temp a couple of degrees but I dont think it will do much better for your CPU since my temps were around where your are now( was a 2.6C @3400 with 1.65v)

The side fans are great for the vid card too since it blows right across the ram sinks to give maybee 5-10Mhz on the mem OC