New AM3+ Motherboard

[BUnit1701]

Hmmm, has me now wondering if all the tut tut about AM3+ not getting new chips has been overblown.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7580/asrock-to-release-990fx-killer-motherboard-with-m2

 

[AtenRa]

Nice board. :thumbsup:

 

[Erenhardt]

Why would anyone release new motherboard on the old socket that supposedly will not see new CPUs? Hmmm...

 

[NTMBK]

Why would anyone release new motherboard on the old socket that supposedly will not see new CPUs? Hmmm...

Because the Piledriver FX chips will be sold until 2015.

 

[Arkaign]

Seems goofy to have a high end board that's expensive in 2013 (basically 2014) with DDR3-1866, PCI Express 2.0, and no native Sata 6Gbit (I never like 3rd party Sata controllers on ANY boards).

I know some people are really brand loyal, but beyond that, what reason to get a $300 board for something that will be dominated by a 3770K or 4770K + Evo 212 + $90 Asrock Z series? Does not compute (lol).

Imho the best deals for FX are in the 6300, 6350, and 8320, paired with a $70ish mobo, cheap cooler, and single GPU. Great gaming performance for cheap.

The high end though? I don't think there's that many suckers left to throw that kind of money away on something that makes no sense.

 

[AtenRa]

what reason to get a $300 board

No way it will cost more than $200-220.

 

[escrow4]

Buying a high end (*SNORT*) AM3+ board makes about as much sense as building a 780Ti SLI system backed by a G1610 with 2GB RAM. Even if you all you can afford is a 6300 save up for an i5. Seriously.

 

[Spawne32]

Buying a high end (*SNORT*) AM3+ board makes about as much sense as building a 780Ti SLI system backed by a G1610 with 2GB RAM. Even if you all you can afford is a 6300 save up for an i5. Seriously.

that makes no sense whatsoever

 

[Arkaign]

No way it will cost more than $200-220.

I guess we'll wait and see. I think $199 would be a good price for this.

I take back what I said on the ram, Anandtech listed it as DDR3-1866 slots, but this :

http://www.techpowerup.com/195720/asrock-fatal1ty-990fx-killer-detailed.html

Says up to 2400 support.

 

[Arkaign]

that makes no sense whatsoever

He's kind of right in terms of high end making little sense for a gaming build, but I still think the 6300 is a good deal compared to typical i5 pricing when you consider the system cost overall.

6300 + decent cheap mobo + 212 Evo + 7950 is a great cheap gaming setup. The 6300 will easily overclock to ~4.2-4.4 even on a fairly basic board, and that's a better buy imho than a locked i5. i5 4670K is a LOT more expensive than a 6300 build.

 

[Arkaign]

It really wouldn't surprise me to see this MSRP at $299 or more though. AsRock's high end boards ARE quite expensive :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157322

That's $299, and it's not even their most expensive board. There are a half dozen more going up to nearly $600, including 1150, 1155 boards to go along with the obviously pricey 2011 stuff.

 

[AtenRa]

It really wouldn't surprise me to see this MSRP at $299 or more though. AsRock's high end boards ARE quite expensive :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157322

That's $299, and it's not even their most expensive board. There are a half dozen more going up to nearly $600, including 1150, 1155 boards to go along with the obviously pricey 2011 stuff.

Ehm, highest ASROCK AM3+ board is at $179,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157358

You cannot compare AM3+ to 1155/1150 and especially 2011 boards.

Highest AM3+ is only at $224,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131876

 

[AtenRa]

I would buy a new AM3+ board but ONLY on Micro-ATX or Mini-iTX format. I would love a mini-iTX AM3+ with FX8350 on a SFF case with WC.

 

[NTMBK]

I would love a mini-iTX AM3+ with FX8350 on a SFF case with WC.

I believe that this is what we Brits commonly refer to as a "kettle".

 

[Erenhardt]

Strange, the first few posts are missing...

 

[Arkaign]

Ehm, highest ASROCK AM3+ board is at $179,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157358

You cannot compare AM3+ to 1155/1150 and especially 2011 boards.

Highest AM3+ is only at $224,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131876

True, but this new AM3+ board has some rather significant changes, and their old AM3 board is REALLY old. I could be wrong, but we'll know soon enough anyway

 

[AtenRa]

True, but this new AM3+ board has some rather significant changes, and their old AM3 board is REALLY old. I could be wrong, but we'll know soon enough anyway

I could be wrong too, but i dont expect an ASROCK board to be more expensive than an ASUS one

 

[AtenRa]

I believe that this is what we Brits commonly refer to as a "kettle".

I can tell you that my FX8350 at 4.2GHz (turbo off) only needs 600rpm on the water-cooling Kit fans (120mm Push-Pull) during gaming (BF4 MP).

 

[ShintaiDK]

I would love a mini-iTX AM3+ with FX8350 on a SFF case with WC.

The 3 chip design is the main limit. You have to settle with the 2 chip FMx.

 

[SPBHM]

Buying a high end (*SNORT*) AM3+ board makes about as much sense as building a 780Ti SLI system backed by a G1610 with 2GB RAM. Even if you all you can afford is a 6300 save up for an i5. Seriously.

high end boards don't make sense anyway...

and actually, AM3+ CPUs (like the 9000s) require A LOT more from the MB than any 1150 CPU, so it would make sense to pay more money for an AM3+ board (if it means better quality, better VRMs/cooling) if that's what you want...


but yes, it's such an outdated platform...

 

[AtenRa]

The 3 chip design is the main limit. You have to settle with the 2 chip FMx.

Actually AM3+ only has 2 chipsets and FM only has a single chipset. But yes the dual chipset implementation is a serious problem for a mini-iTX board. But they could have made a nice AM3+ Micro-ATX board like the ASUS GENE ROG series.

 

[Arkaign]

I can tell you that my FX8350 at 4.2GHz (turbo off) only needs 600rpm on the water-cooling Kit fans (120mm Push-Pull) during gaming (BF4 MP).

4.2ish really is the sweet spot with Vishera. I've pushed them to 4.5 and beyond, but the additional heat/noise/power is ludicrously stupid. They run great at 4.2 anyway I feel the same about extreme intel OCs. Why run a processor at 10/10ths, when you can get 98% of that performance with a TON less heat/power usage?

Sweet spot FTW.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Actually AM3+ only has 2 chipsets and FM only has a single chipset. But yes the dual chipset implementation is a serious problem for a mini-iTX board. But they could have made a nice AM3+ Micro-ATX board like the ASUS GENE ROG series.

You need to count the CPU in as well. Chip, not chipsets.

I agree, mATX wouldnt be hard to make.

I assume Asrock expects to sell these 4 new boards due to the fatality brand and Killer NICs, and a M.2 bonus for the AM3+ board. A hope for existing users to replace their already perfectly working boards. The B85 board seems directly desperate tho. That price range, yet the ~10$ saved for a gimped B85 chipset in a "highend" board...

 

[AtenRa]

4.2ish really is the sweet spot with Vishera. I've pushed them to 4.5 and beyond, but the additional heat/noise/power is ludicrously stupid. They run great at 4.2 anyway I feel the same about extreme intel OCs. Why run a processor at 10/10ths, when you can get 98% of that performance with a TON less heat/power usage?

Sweet spot FTW.

Yeap, 4.2GHz with Turbo OFF is the best performance/power usage sweet spot. Less power usage and higher performance than Default settings

 

[ShintaiDK]

15μ Gold Finger This motherboard uses 15μ gold components within the VGA PCIe slot for delivering triple performance than usual.

I had to read it twice, couldnt believe the nonsense.