New 9/11 Probe Could Spotlight Iraq Link

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Congressional hearings coming this fall into revelations by the military intelligence group Able Danger could spotlight other evidence overlooked by the 9/11 Commission: including a March 2001 report suggesting that Osama bin Laden was working with Iraqi intelligence operatives in Germany at a time when Mohamed Atta and two other 9/11 hijack team leaders were living in Hamburg.

On March 16, 2001, the Paris-based newspaper Al Watan al Arabi reported:

"Two Iraqis were arrested in Germany, charged with spying for Baghdad. The arrests came in the wake of reports that Iraq was reorganizing the external branches of its intelligence service and that it had drawn up a plan to strike at US interests around the world through a network of alliances with extremist fundamentalist parties."

Al Watan said that German intelligence was investigating "serious indications of cooperation between Iraq and bin Ladin.* The matter was considered so important that a special team of CIA and FBI agents was sent to Germany to interrogate the two Iraqi spies."

The pre-9/11 Al Watan report continued:

"German authorities were surprised by the arrest of the two Iraqi agents and the discovery of Iraqi intelligence activities in several German cities. German authorities, acting on CIA recommendations, had been focused on monitoring the activities of Islamic groups linked to bin Ladin."

A timeline established by U.S. intelligence shows that three out of four 9/11 hijack team leaders, Mr. Atta, Marwan al Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, lived in Hamburg from Nov. 1998 thru Feb. 2001.

The Weekly Standard, which covered the Al Watan report this week in a story by Captain's Quarter's blogger Ed Morrissey noted:

"Despite this contemporaneous report about the nature of the German arrests and the involvement of American counterintelligence officials in the investigation, not a word of the affair appears in the 9/11 Commission's final report."

This fall's hearings will undoubtedly begin with questions about why both the 9/11 Commission and the Clinton administration dismissed Able Danger's stunning identification of Mohamed Atta inside the U.S.

But any congressional investigation that doesn't explore other overlooked bombshells - including indications of possible Iraqi involvement in the 9/11 attacks - will leave even more important questions unanswered.

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This is interesting news. The media continues to fail to give Able Danger ample coverage in the spotlight.

It is important to pursue the war on terror and not to leave until the job is done.
 

Mean MrMustard

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Isn't it kind of ironic that 3 years after the war started, suddenly there is an 'investigation' into evidence of an Iraq link, that has all been bunk since the beginning?

Oh, and that some how one of the staunchest opponents of the war (Germany) is some how connected?
 

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TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from Newsmax! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

zendari -- You're a pathetic joke. :p
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from Newsmax! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

zendari -- You're a pathetic joke. :p

LOL! :laugh:
 

sandorski

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The saddest part of all this is that while leading up to the war most supporters were going on how the Bush Admin knew more than we did. Certainly a worthy arguement and one would expect that to be true, but as we now know they simply didn't. Now we have these desparation conjectures trying to show that they were possibly correct in their assertions after all. 50 years from now many people will still be muttering nonsense on their deathbeds about all this, insisting that it was the correct thing to do regardless of the facts. That's what you get with a Faith based Policy, Faith doesn't need evidence, just belief. Unfortunetly it only works out if what you have Faith in exists.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Harvey
TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from Newsmax! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

zendari -- You're a pathetic joke. :p

Emoticon overdose. Guess you have nothing to say because a 911/Iraq link would shatter all the FUD of the leftwinged extremists.
 

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[Guess you have nothing to say because a 911/Iraq link would shatter all the FUD of the leftwinged extremists.[/quote]You can wish and hope all you want, but if the best source you can come up with is as credible as newsmocks, the odds that there is anything to it are somewhere south of zero.

Truly pathetic! :roll:
 

afawzy316

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watch "Dead Wrong" on CNN, good documentary

*edit*
oh and if there is a "link" it is as much of a link as the terrorists have with Saudi Arabia or any other arab country but we havent gone and invaded them because they sell us their oil and because their dictators didnt try to kill our president's daddy.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from Newsmax! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

zendari -- You're a pathetic joke. :p

Guess you have nothing to say because a 911/Iraq link would shatter all the FUD of the leftwinged extremists.

The goal posts have already been moved Zendari. Keep kicking :thumbsup:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You should hang you head for even posting this link.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! TIN FOIL BEANY ALERT!!! It's another POS from Newsmax! :shocked:

:cookie: :roll: :laugh: Buahahaha! :laugh: :roll: :cookie:

zendari -- You're a pathetic joke. :p

Emoticon overdose. Guess you have nothing to say because a 911/Iraq link would shatter all the FUD of the leftwinged extremists.

Two comments here...

First, there is no link. There is a lot of noise about it, and there are fishing expeditions to beat the band. But there is no link, there was never a link, and unless this theory moves from fake news sources to, you know, reality, that's how it's going to stay. This isn't some "belief" issue, this is about reality and what we can prove, and so far the proof all leans in one direction.

Secondly, it is way more than "leftwinged extremists" who think the link turns out to be...not so much. Like I said, there COULD be a link, and if there is, I'm the first one who wants to hear it. But right now, the vast majority of the evidence suggests that theory is wishful thinking at best.
 

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Excuse me but this is unbeleaveable. That anyone would buy a link this far down the time line. Poor poor judgement.
 

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Originally posted by: luigi1
Excuse me but this is unbeleaveable. That anyone would buy a link this far down the time line. Poor poor judgement.

Actions speak louder than words. Back in mid 2004, Wolfowitz had to sever his ties to Ahmed Chalabi. It was an ugly breakup. What Wolfowitz really did was admit the scam in public. Chalabi meanwhile, keeps grinning like the Chestshire Cat. Why would the guy accused for spying for Iran be allowed to become Iraq's Oil Minister?

Chalabi is a convicted bank felon, and not even a real exile. He left Iraq when he was a kid. Paul Bremer should be interrogated until he spills how much of Iraq's missing 8.8 Billion dollars wound up in the back of Chalabi's stolen SUVs.

It's surprising that there are still attempts beng made to hid the biggest con job in modern history.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
Originally posted by: luigi1
Excuse me but this is unbeleaveable. That anyone would buy a link this far down the time line. Poor poor judgement.

Actions speak louder than words. Back in mid 2004, Wolfowitz had to sever his ties to Ahmed Chalabi. It was an ugly breakup. What Wolfowitz really did was admit the scam in public. Chalabi meanwhile, keeps grinning like the Chestshire Cat. Why would the guy accused for spying for Iran be allowed to become Iraq's Oil Minister?

Chalabi is a convicted bank felon, and not even a real exile. He left Iraq when he was a kid. Paul Bremer should be interrogated until he spills how much of Iraq's missing 8.8 Billion dollars wound up in the back of Chalabi's stolen SUVs.

It's surprising that there are still attempts beng made to hid the biggest con job in modern history.
Chalabi...what a joke.

Despised by the CIA and kicked out back in 1996 but maintained relationships with the PNACers. As soon as this admin gets into power, Chalabi and his pack of lying toadies become the DIA/OSP's darlings.

Then, when the sh*t starts "Curveball"ing south, they dump him and smear him with charges of spying for Iran.

When that blows over, they put him in charge of the oil ministry in the new Iraqi gov't.


:roll:
 

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And soon the WMD will present itself. :disgust: The Right's desperation grows ever stronger. What's the matter, didn't want to start another anti-Cindy Sheehan thread? :roll:
 

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I'll just put this in the 'fairy tale' list...

along with...

[*]Bush's "solid evidence" of WMD that he said he had back in 12/02 (which, of course, he STILL can't reveal)
[*]Bush's announcements back in late summer of 03 that in a mid-september speech he was going to make he was going to reveal some kind of evidence concerning Iraq's WMD that would shock us all (and then he just asked for more money)
[*]Bush's claim that he would give the 9/11 commission his 'full cooperation' (and then proceeded to fight them at every turn)
[*]Iraq's WMD itself
[*]Bush's statement that anyone involved in the Plame scandal would be fired (he should've just stuck a "maybe" in there)


feel free to add to the 'fairy tale' list, anyone, as I'm off to kick my 5-year-olds butt in miniature golf. :)
 

conjur

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Hey, Gaard.

Don't forget the multiple Iraq war progress reports we were promised and the next phase of the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Good to see, once again, the anti-war crowd keep an open mind and a willing acceptance to discover the truth. :roll:

The truth that the right will go to any lengths to justify this war of lies even when it has been totally discredited over and over. :roll: So you are buying into the whole "Iraq was involved in 9/11" thing still?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Good to see, once again, the anti-war crowd keep an open mind and a willing acceptance to discover the truth. :roll:

Isn't a favorite saying of conservatives, "Don't let your mind be so open your brain falls out"? Certainly nobody should be prejudiced against the truth from the beginning, but at this point there is a lot more to go on than simply political prejudices. I'm perfectly willing to accept the truth, whatever it may be. But that doesn't mean I'm going to agree that all versions of the truth are equally likely, not at this point.

If there was a solid link, I assume we would have found it by now. Could there still be a link that for some reason we've missed? Sure, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect anyone to treat such an idea with the same level of seriousness we would have a couple of years ago, do you?
 

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ummm, aren't you supposed to justify actions before they happen? :laugh:

I can see this sort of information being used BEFORE the war, but now?...It's blatently obvious they are still looking to justify the war, how sad.
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
ummm, aren't you supposed to justify actions before they happen? :laugh:

I can see this sort of information being used BEFORE the war, but now?...It's blatently obvious they are still looking to justify the war, how sad.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: The Lord
I'm surprised zendari hasn't posted a thread linking Sheehan to 9/11 yet.

:laugh: :laugh:
 

Stunt

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With the resources, intelligence, and spin the US gov't has been spewing out lately, I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a zendari link to 9/11. ;)