New 5900 for $200 or refurbished 9700 Pro for $225

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gibhunter

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Those are basically the prices on Newegg right now which by the way is also the cheapest 9700 Pro out there currently. Card will be used for both, HL2 and Doom3. No it won't be overclocked. I'm kind of leaning towards the ATI card. Opinions?
 
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CraigRT

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not too sure.. i might be tempted to try a 5900

but i have a 9700 pro and its quite powerful.. :)
 
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modedepe

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I'd probably take the 5900. The 9700 will be better in hl2, but the 5900 will be better in doom3. Kind of a toss up, but the 5900 is cheaper.
 
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bpt8056

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I'd stay away from the refurb. Makes me wonder why it was returned in the first place. Go with the 5900, you'll love it especially for Doom3. :D
 
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nRollo

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If they were both new, I'd say you can't go wrong with either. 5900 over the refurb though. (or toss a coin on 5900 vs 9800NP)
 
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RollWave

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5900nu's rule. I got my roommate one for hsi comp and in realtime performance it rivals my crappy 256mb 9800 pro ;) hehe

I find the eVGA offering to be the best as it overclocks great, but DOES take up two slots, not sure if other ones do.
 
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cindy22

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"5900nu's rule. I got my roommate one for hsi comp and in realtime performance it rivals my crappy 256mb 9800 pro hehe"

LOL! yeah right . Next your going to tell us you own a ferrari, but it can't beat your friends honda civic, or that pigs can really fly.
 
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cindy22

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I don't know why prices in canada and US are so different with exact same cards

a brand new 9800 non pro can be had for around the same price or cheaper than a 5900 non ultra if you can still get a hold of one ,where I'm at ,it's hard to find the 9800 non pro now

In canada a month ago a 9800 non pro was around $300-$330 canadian that's around $200-$220 US .Now a 5900 non ultra goes for around $350-$450 canadian here that's around $250-$330 US

the 9800 pro's price also just drop by over $100 canadian or over $50 US
right now I can get a 9800 pro here for $380-$395 Canadian that's $270-$290 US
while the cheapest 5900 ultra (depending on brand names)goes between $450-$650 here ,that's $350-$450 US

I find the nvidia's fx are so overpriced and ridiculiously slower than their competition in canada

don't buy a used 9700 pro try getting a new 9800 non pro or 9800 pro you will be set for now and the future weither your planning to play new directx 9 or older diretx 8 games you'll be happy.

but if your not planning to buy recent directx 9 and or future games or not planning to play games at all get nvidia's 5900 .

Everybody knows nvidia's fx series sucks big time, they need 2 pc slots ,they handle very poorly with directx 9 and future directx 9 games
especially when cranking up aa and af and image quality is lower than ati's

if you don't want to have to upgrade again soon when new games and future ones coming out that uses mainly directx9 ,then get ati 's 9X00 series ,do not get nvidia's fx line until they come out with a new generation card that actually beats ati without having to cheat to win

 
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bpt8056

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but if your not planning to buy recent directx 9 and or future games or not planning to play games at all get nvidia's 5900 .
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Doom 3 is a future game and thus the FX 5900 whups the 9800 series. How do you know that the fx5900 will perform slowly in DX9 games? It is competitive with the 9800 series in Halo (uses DX9 shaders) and Aquamark here and here.

Everybody knows nvidia's fx series sucks big time, they need 2 pc slots ,they handle very poorly with directx 9 and future directx 9 games
especially when cranking up aa and af and image quality is lower than ati's
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Handle DX9 and future DX9 poorly? Again, that is unfounded. Image quality lower than ATi's? ATi has a better AA solution, but their AF needs some work. Ever try any racing games where there's some banking? You'll see that their AF immediately disappears when the angle of the ground(plane) shifts. If you don't understand what I'm talking about, you can read it here and here

A comparison of image quality in DX9 games can be found here and here.


if you don't want to have to upgrade again soon when new games and future ones coming out that uses mainly directx9 ,then get ati 's 9X00 series ,do not get nvidia's fx line until they come out with a new generation card that actually beats ati without having to cheat to win
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Neither card is future proof and if you don't want to upgrade for more than a year, then I suggest you wait until the next generation video cards are announced (should be this coming Feb./March). Don't buy a video card if you want the best performance for games that are not on the shelves yet like Doom 3 and Half-Life 2. I suggest you wait and when they do come out, do your research and make your decision based on benchmarks on those two games.


 
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McArra

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Handle DX9 and future DX9 poorly? Again, that is unfounded. Image quality lower than ATi's? ATi has a better AA solution, but their AF needs some work. Ever try any racing games where there's some banking? You'll see that their AF immediately disappears when the angle of the ground(plane) shifts. If you don't understand what I'm talking about, you can read it here and here
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LOL. THG!!! I think thats more than objective <sarcasm>
 
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McArra

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What about Shadermark? it performs really bad in FX line. DX9 performance is very poor (Tomb Raider also) in FX line compared with ATI.
 
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Cindy, EVERY thread I see you in you say the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over............
You joined anand forums just to bash Nvidia everywhere you go and how they cheated on this and cheated on that. Your big splurges about ATi and Nvidia are no more helpful than a bat to a dead horse. Or, whatever they say in Canada...................

With that said

Because of Doom and Doom2 I will more than likely find that Doom3 will entertain me much more than Half Life 2
ATi for right now has a decent performance lead over Nvidia in HL2. Somewhere around 2-15% maybe more, maybe less
For Doom 3 Nvidia has decent performance lead ATi. Somewhere around 3-20% maybe more, maybe less

We will not know for sure until these two games come out and both Nvidia and ATi finalize drivers.

Whoever is telling you to spend 200$ on a 9800np and flash/overclock to a 9800pro is on the right track
 
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Evdawg

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im more of an ATI fan... but refurbs scare me... try to find a 9800NP for the same price.. if you can snatch it.. if not go with the 5900
 
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fdisk2003

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>"best bet will be trying to find a 9800 np @ CC and BB for $199"

Best Buy and Computer City? Or which vendors..looking for a 9800 Non Pro myself. Thanks
 
videoclone

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Get a Radeon 9800np or a Geforce 5900nu there both great cards :) Best Value around

And Cindy is Full of crap ;) Marry Xmas everybody:beer::D:beer:
 
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