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NEW 10,000 RPM SATA 80GB
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BigCoolJesus
Banned
Actually it might be a Western Digital Raptor
i know someone made a thread about a month ago where he opened up his computer (either a dell or a gateway) and it had a 80GB Raptor drive........ he even emailed western digital and they confirmed it was a raptor
(these can only be found in retail systems such as dells)
i know someone made a thread about a month ago where he opened up his computer (either a dell or a gateway) and it had a 80GB Raptor drive........ he even emailed western digital and they confirmed it was a raptor
(these can only be found in retail systems such as dells)
imported_Kensai
Lifer
It's a special version of the raptor.
suicidalpigeon
Banned
most likely the raptor.
foodfightr
Golden Member
ESATA?
akugami
Diamond Member
It's a Raptor. Do a search on Dell for a 74GB Raptor and check the stats side by side with this non branded 10k rpm drive. It's pretty much a carbon copy of the Raptor. Seeing as there are no announced 10k rpm HD's from Seagate, Maxtor or Hitachi, it's unlikely that one of them made this drive.
imported_Rampage
Senior member
Raptors already have been defeated, unless you prefer synthetic results to real world results.
In real world testing (the only tests that actually matter), the Seagate 7200.8s are faster than Raptors. While still being cheaper and having much more storage space.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2396&p=13
Raptors are fast, and great drives. But overhyped.
Real world testing is all that matters and there are faster drives out there. Not to mention my two 200GB 7200.8s in RAID-0 are near silent.
While remaining faster than a Raptor (or even RAID-0 Raptors), and at about $100 a pop, only $50 more than a single Raptor (and a $150 raptor is the price with mail in rebates).
Put two 200GB 7200.8s in RAID-0 for $200 or so, get NCQ and 5 year warranty. Not bad.
In real world testing (the only tests that actually matter), the Seagate 7200.8s are faster than Raptors. While still being cheaper and having much more storage space.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2396&p=13
Raptors are fast, and great drives. But overhyped.
Real world testing is all that matters and there are faster drives out there. Not to mention my two 200GB 7200.8s in RAID-0 are near silent.
While remaining faster than a Raptor (or even RAID-0 Raptors), and at about $100 a pop, only $50 more than a single Raptor (and a $150 raptor is the price with mail in rebates).
Put two 200GB 7200.8s in RAID-0 for $200 or so, get NCQ and 5 year warranty. Not bad.
entropy1982
Golden Member
So here is my delemma now.... I just got an 80 gig raptor.... i already opened it tested it... but havent used it (only formatted and put 1 file on it) .... should i sell it on ebay for like 150 or whatever i can get for it and buy this drive? ...... 🙁
You're actually the one who needs to re-read. There are more than 3 benchmarks to that review.
Here I'll list them out, from pages of the same review
Raptor wins this set of benchmarks from that review
Raptor wins this set too
And this set
And this one
Wins 1/2
Some go to Raptor, some to others
Raptor wins all 5 here
etc etc...
And that's about all there is for that review
Lol, you seem to have ignored the benchs that the Raptor lost in, including the all important gaming benchs. I've always thought that those people who dished out hundred of dollars for a Raptor or two did it to improve gaming performance. I don't know anyone who buys a Raptor for business apps.
*shrug* Those gaming load times are the ones that are most relevant as far as the Raptor is concerned. Like I said, I don't know anyone who buys them for anything other than maxing out their gaming performance. I'm seriously going to laugh if you were to tell me that you spent all that money on your Raptors to run business applications. Many of those other benchs are business related apps, so it's a bit of a moot point. At any rate, enjoy your Raptors 😉...
imported_Rampage
Senior member
I figured there would be a bunch of whiny Raptor users coming in here after I posted those results.
People buy Raptors for gaming, in most cases.
In gaming, they arent faster.. and they are small drives (AND louder and more expensive as well).
The 7200.8s hold their own in the other tests, but the most important one.. level loading they win hands down.
I would wager 90% of the people who buy raptors buy them thinking it will increase gaming performance such as level loads.
If you are doing real hardcore business work with disk i/o intensive requirements.. you generally will be doing that at work where they will have something a bit more heavy duty anyway.. as in RAID 5 or something so you have mirroring and striping.
And they probably wouldnt use Raptors in that environment, being such small drives.
I have 400GB of space, and these 2 200GB 7200.8's are plenty fast.. esp in RAID-0.
So like AmberClad said.. enjoy your Raptors.
But after reading that review of the Seagate I knew which one was the better buy.
Way more space, way more quiet (silent), faster in gaming, cheaper and a 5 year warranty from Seagate.
No slouch in the benchs that matter, and faster in the most important one to most home users. Like I said if you need SERIOUS I/O performance for work, you probably need redundancy regardless as it probably pays your bills? Not to mention 80GB isnt much space for video editing or 3d work.
People buy Raptors for gaming, in most cases.
In gaming, they arent faster.. and they are small drives (AND louder and more expensive as well).
The 7200.8s hold their own in the other tests, but the most important one.. level loading they win hands down.
I would wager 90% of the people who buy raptors buy them thinking it will increase gaming performance such as level loads.
If you are doing real hardcore business work with disk i/o intensive requirements.. you generally will be doing that at work where they will have something a bit more heavy duty anyway.. as in RAID 5 or something so you have mirroring and striping.
And they probably wouldnt use Raptors in that environment, being such small drives.
I have 400GB of space, and these 2 200GB 7200.8's are plenty fast.. esp in RAID-0.
So like AmberClad said.. enjoy your Raptors.
But after reading that review of the Seagate I knew which one was the better buy.
Way more space, way more quiet (silent), faster in gaming, cheaper and a 5 year warranty from Seagate.
No slouch in the benchs that matter, and faster in the most important one to most home users. Like I said if you need SERIOUS I/O performance for work, you probably need redundancy regardless as it probably pays your bills? Not to mention 80GB isnt much space for video editing or 3d work.
I bought mine for overall system performance, and at that, they are the best SATA drives out there. Including boot times as well
I would not trade 1-2 secs difference in game loading times for slower performance in almost every other area, not to mention double the seek time
imported_Rampage
Senior member
As long as you can justify buying into the Raptor hype that they are the best drives going.. then great.
Small drives with a hefty price tag, no 5 year warranty and you still have slower gaming drives than me regardless.
Kinda sad considering I have 250GB more space than you do as well. At half the price.
You can talk all you want, but for such supposedly superior drives its damn sad they cant even beat a cheaper drive with a 5 year warranty in level loads.
More than likely, you didnt read or pay attention to that review before plopping down $400 or so for two 74GB Raptors. 😀
If you had said the 7200.8 drives were competitive with raptors I wouldnt have responded, but you said they basically made them "old technology" which is absurd given that Raptors win in the large majority of every benchmark posted.
The 7200.8's shine in the doom 3 level, but in the other two they only exceed by
1.3 seconds faster in HL2
1.7 seconds in C&C.
And they lose in almost everything else.
I wouldn't buy a drive because it goes 1 sec. faster in level loading and loses nearly everything else, nor would I call it better than a raptor. I can't hear my raptor anyway.